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 No.195641

We have these threads every once in a while. What is your current worldview, philosophy, religion, opinions in general about life, etc? I think I'm not the only one around here who changes his worldviews or modifies them quite often.

In a few sentences: I'm an anarchist/left-libertarian, anti-materialist, I prefer asceticism over hedonism, I'm an atheist but I am interested in spiritualism, I believe in souls and free will and that death isn't the end, I reject reincarnation or the idea of eternal recurrence though. I think morality is subjective and that universal morals don't exist, I also think that people can't be anything but egoists. I reject hollow pacifism and believe that lots of bad things could have been avoided during history if people were more decisive and aggressive in certain matters, in other words I think violence has its place in life, we just need to know when to use it and against whom. I hold the belief that animals have souls too and indeed, everything in existence, even plants and rocks and artificial stuff. I view vegetarianism and veganism as feel good morality crap and since you can't exist without hurting other beings at all might as well enjoy our place in nature and eat meat. I am anti-racist, anti-nationalist and believe in equal rights and responsibilities for men and wymen. I have a soft spot for those who are weak or useless in the eyes of society but I have a burning hatred for persons of authority of any kind (teachers, doctors, policemen, politicians, religious leaders, lawyers, judges, etc) and privileged/rich people in general. I think our world is only a reflection of a higher dimension, including us too. Everything we can think of exists on a higher plane of existence and everything that exists in this world has a true essence that exists outside of time and space. I maintain that reason is only a tool in the end and that emotions matter more and our every choice and act is motivated by our feelings rather than our rationality.

What about you?

 No.195642

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wrote this on /b/ a while ago, then the thread 404ed almost immediately after.
might as well just repost instead of rewrite.

 No.195647

I think I've beome one of those "NPC" everyone's talking about. Nothing matters to me but earning money to support my family.

 No.195650

>>195642
>t. spoiled child

 No.195651

was gonna make a long reply but not sure if i feel like that seeing as you are the egoist nigger probably. i agree on many other things (not all), but i really feel that this is a dumb belief especially after mentioning your opinion on diet. i also feel that it isnt interesting conversation to just agree or nitpick small things.
yes, living people are acting for self-interest, but i would not consider that "egoist." maybe we just have a stipulation in definition. to me, an egoist is someone who thinks charity is stupid so long as it doesnt benefit themselves, thinks they are the protagonist or (a) god, fancies themselves to be the center of the universe, etc. self-aggrandizing shit. it is possible to do things for others with no strings attached. people have extended the courtesy to me and i have to them. if you think acting at all in self-interest (like eating to survive) is egotism, i strongly disagree.

 No.195652

>left-libertarian
oxymoron

 No.195655

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>>195641
>18 | Anarcho-Libertarian | ☭ | materialists DNI | Enby | trans-theist | vegan | ACAB | smash the fash | LGBT ally | EAT THE RICH | Virgo | Feelings Before facts |

>Anime_succubi_pics_dot_com_1082412


You are on the same mental level as 95% of all American college graduates. The fact that you even wrote so much about yourself touting your progressive politics and asserting how DIFFERENT you are from us goo-brains is the most 'egoist" thing you could have done and yet here you are claiming individualism. You are a cookie-cutter normalfag and probably dye your hair some sort of rainbow color.

We care who wizards are, we like to here about them, but you're literally just "modern lefty indoctrinate who thinks he's special". No thread on /wiz/ deserved to die because you needed your daily fix of telling everyone how much you hate ebil nazis and want us to just eat the bugs already. You don't care about us either unless we describe how we are exactly like you in every way. That's just how you people are. There are multi-lingual PDF documents written by sane people warning those from other cultures how to identify people like you OTI so they don't wind up interacting with your ilk and being poisoned by your faggotry.

T. Racist, raw-meat eating, exercising, material-collecting, moral absolutist esoteric Hitlerite nationalist who donates to police charities and politicians I agree with.

 No.195659

Labels after labels. Think for yourself a little bit

 No.195661

I'm a maggot

 No.195665

nobody cares

 No.195671

>>195641
>I think morality is subjective
>I'm an anarchist
false.

 No.195672

Absolutely cringe

 No.195676

Disappointing replies, I had higher expectations for you. Seems like actual intelligent wizards migrated from here or are too tired to bother posting now. That or years of image board posting destroyed your brains finally and you think everything is just "labels" >>195659

>>195671
Anarchy and morality are kind of mutually exclusive, despite many anarchist scholars claiming to be moralists.

>>195651
>it is possible to do things for others with no strings attached
Nobody ever helped others out of pure concern for others. Altruism and giving charity are like drugs, they make you feel good and special for helping others and so you indulge in these behaviors. But the root of the motivation is always the ego.
>an egoist is someone who thinks charity is stupid so long as it doesnt benefit themselves, thinks they are the protagonist or (a) god, fancies themselves to be the center of the universe, etc. self-aggrandizing shit
This is true for everyone though. Like I said, there are non-material rewards for helping others, for example gaining the respect of others and making yourself feel good for being a "hero". I'm not questioning that people can help others, only that why they do it. The reason is always egoism in some form.

>>195655
>being this butthurt because someone thinks differently from you

 No.195678

Aiming to achieve no opinions like when I was a child and truly happy

 No.195685

>>195676
as always, you are stuck too far up your own ass to entertain anything from another's perspective and so you have to project your egotism onto everybody else. if helping others got people high, then everyone would do it a lot more. i am sure some people do it to inflate their egos, but i still consider myself a shit person before and after. i dont get anything out of it. life sucks for most people whether or not they can admit it, so it doesnt hurt to be helpful even if you get nothing in return.
also maybe your topic just isnt interesting and the problem lies with you instead of everybody else. good chat, bud.

 No.195686

>>195685
>if helping others got people high, then everyone would do it a lot more
They already do it a lot? Volunteer work, charity and etc are mainstream and popular things, they have always been.

>i still consider myself a shit person before and after. i dont get anything out of it

Except the fact that you can pat yourself on the back for reducing suffering a little in this old cruel world? I don't know why you feel the need to be so pretentious to portray yourself as someone completely devoid of ego and self.

>also maybe your topic just isnt interesting and the problem lies with you instead of everybody else.

Or maybe people here lack genuine, honest opinions these days.

 No.195687

>>195686
i knew you would say that i get off on it when i only have to mention it because of your incredibly retarded assumption about everybody else being just as self-centered as you are. it isn't boasting to illustrate that there is a stark difference in temperament between us. it's not even to say that yours is objectively bad (of course i personally think so, however), but that you are plain wrong about every single person being an egoist for ever acting in self-interest. i am sure you are the samefag who thinks someone loves life and loves the taste of shit so long as they havent committed suicide yet, but there is indeed a preservation instinct innate in most that is separate from their conscious mind and so people are compelled to do things like eating to avoid completely wasting away. i actually hate being complimented when i do favors for people. i prefer if less people like me because then nothing is expected of me and it is one less attachment to bog others' lives down with.
cool bait tho, anyway enjoy masturbating your fragile, pathetic little ego since clearly nobody else is going to do that. you are autistic in a bad way. funny you call me pretentious with all the stupid shit that you post.

 No.195688

Every opinion, philosophy, political view, or else, is just pure cope to deal with reality.

 No.195689

>>195687
Everyone is an egoist, this is true simply because you are locked into your own perspective of things. You can't "step out of yourself" and be objective or completely altruistic for no reason whatsoever. In your case it sounds like you are a masochist or have low self-esteem and so you are just eager to please everyone around you and to help in any way you can. Which isn't a good thing, btw. This female-like attitude results in letting worthless people do whatever they want and letting them get away with everything. The nature of this world is one of constant fight, you have to keep others in check and others will keep you in check and so some order will be born out of this.

>>195688
>cope
I came to hate this word recently. Maybe because every single post on chans or otherwise is filled with this buzzword. Deconstructing things can be fun but it is a cope to label everything as a cope ultimately. There will come a time when you have to decide where you stand and what you deem worthy enough to fight for.

 No.195690

I believe I am a good wiz imp and I am blessing all the wizzies with heightened fortunes in this wiz thread.

 No.195693

>>195676
>Anarchy and morality are kind of mutually exclusive
so if i dont believe rulership and slavery are subjectively okay then i cant be an anarchist?

 No.195719

>>195693
It's more like this: if you aren't even allowed to have your own values then how are you free? Objective values imply forcing your own values onto everyone else. Therefore moralists can't be anarchists.

 No.195721

>>195641
I'm just bumbling about and changing my opinions to whatever helps me most at a given moment, I can't really hold proper beliefs anymore.

 No.195731

national socialist. everything in our life is shit because the bad guys side won the biggest war.

 No.195732

>>195719
youre free to have whatever retarded beliefs you want, but you dont get to have whatever ideas you want and call yourself an anarchist. if you want to enslave people and rob people then you are not an anarchist, you share the exact same mindset as a dictator. a true anarchist knows that it is wrong to aggress upon others, and it is right to defend against others aggressing upon you. this is the basis on anarchy because this is what prevents "archy" or statism from manifesting. you cannot be an anarchist and believe in moral relativism because that is precisely what statism is. the idea that morality can change based on the time period, or if certain people sign a paper, or if youre wearing a certain uniform. if you believe that any of that is true then you cannot refute statism at all, and thus even if you are an anarchist theres no fucking point to it.

 No.195733

>>195676
>being this butthurt because someone thinks differently from you

I'm butthurt that someone who developed their worldview through community college textbooks has found our little community of odd-thinkers and schizoids and decided to muck it up with his juvenile attitude towards life. We're no geniuses, scholars, or poets - but you're a normalfag through-and-through so of course you're not welcome here. I'd dare to say you even use Apple hardware.

 No.195734

>>195731
fucking what?

 No.195735

>>195731
I’m not white, not even related to europeans but really agree that if nazis had won the ww2 this world would’ve been more civilized and advanced.

 No.195736

>>195647
>wizard
>having a family

You're on the wrong website.

 No.195737

>>195732
Look kiddo, you are probably one of the many "anarchists" or "leftists" nowadays who preach morality and pacifism but you must know that original anarchism had nothing to do with that at all. Anarchism was always a revolutionary ideology like communism - the two are closely related after all. Propaganda of the deed and all that. You don't get to pick out whatever you like from anarchists and go with that. It's clear you are a pacifist libertarian at most and not an actual anarchist. If you were an anarchist you wouldn't bow before universal "thou shalt not" morality which is always cattle morality. If you are an anarchist that implies you hold different views from mainstream morality and therefore you are a moral relativist.

I don't want to enslave anyone or want any kind of state. I want to be free, which implies being free to DO ANYTHING I want, including robbing or threatening rich people to give me their stuff. You are pacifist libertarian again, not an anarchist. If you were an anarchist you would know that the state claims monopoly on the rights to violence and that is why it so hypocrite and rotten to have a state at all. People should be allowed to get whatever they can, by any means, for themselves.

If you preach objective morals you end with a state in the end, ironically, because you want to tell others what they can and can't do.

>>195733
Joke's on you, never went to college. Being a nazi is okay for "odd-thinkers and schizoids" but being an anarchist isn't allowed? Despite the fact that nazis and right-wing extremists are the biggest normals out there. Hmm…

>>195735
>>195731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(badge)
>was an identification badge used in Nazi concentration camps to mark prisoners designated asozial ("asocial")[1][2] and arbeitsscheu ("work-shy").
>The designation also included alcoholics, homeless, beggars, nomads,…, many registered or deemed mentally-ill and intellectually disabled

Oh so wizard-friendly would it be to be worked to death in some concentration comp by Hans Übernormal.

There is a wide variety of political and philosophical ideologies out there. Why do you have to pick the one that is anti-NEET and anti-wizardly the most?

 No.195738

>>195737
>I want to be free, which implies being free to DO ANYTHING I want, including robbing or threatening rich people to give me their stuff

You ARE free to do that. And just as you are free to do that, other people are free to stop you, or to pay others to stop you. Dumb and silly person.

 No.195739

I agree with most of what OP says, except that i am very materialist, i like money and i like comfort, money gives me secutity, privacy and freedom to do what i what, why the hell i would be anti-materialist?

And i am kind of hedonist, in a sense that i don't deny the pleasures of life. Its different from the "normalfag, social hedonism", but still hedonism.

I flirt with the of reducing meat comsumption, however and never will be vegan though. Vegetarianism is acceptable but i still think i will never be vegetarian, but i strive to reduce meat consumption.

The rest… Yeah, i kind of agree.

 No.195740

>>195738
No, according to laws and the legal system I'm not free to do that at all and the state would gladly punish me if I decided to act on these things. The state must go since it treats people differently, if someone is rich then he starts with a better position in life than others.

True freedom and equality come with the death of the state when only your strength counts, not how much money (worthless paper without the state) you own.

Under a state if you decide to try to redistribute things the police, people who wouldn't otherwise have any business or problem with you but they have now because they are paid with money to be the hitmen of the state, would stop you with all its force.

>>195739
>why the hell i would be anti-materialist
Materialism is a boring worldview. Also, I can never shake the skepticism from myself, that things aren't as they appear to be. Plus idealism can be combined nicely with a personality that enjoys "escapism" like anime, movies and books. I like to think life isn't different at all from anime in the sense that what we call reality is ultimately just a reflection of something higher, a higher plane.

>hedonism vs asceticism

What you mean by hedonism? Masturbation and eating? Hedonism originally referred to bodily, sensual pleasure only. I meant my asceticism in the sense that I prefer other enjoyments over bodily pleasures like eating, sleeping, drinking alcohol or jerking off. I don't live like a monk but I value reading an entertaining book or watching a good movie over masturbation and eating pizza.

 No.195741

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>>195740
They were free to form a team to deal with you, so they did. Why do you want "freedoms" for you but not for everyone else? If you're doing something with a friend that infringes on what someone else wants to do, do you desist? It's their freedom to do that. And it's their freedom to kill you if you disagree. It's your freedom to ask your friend for help to save you. You've now commissioned an authority, as you are free to.

"The State", or, the elected officials representing the collective peoples, would try to punish you because they decided it was in their best interest as a society. You were free to oppose, free to vote against, and free to advocate for a change in the system they decided upon. And still, you are free to rob and kill them, but if you want to get away with it you'll have to outgun, outmaneuver, and outsmart the greater collective.

You're literally trying to argue for your right to eat the rich and not have anyone who disagrees try stopping you. I was joking when I said that, maybe I gave you a bad idea. You're not an anarchist and now it's evident that you didn't partake in post-secondary education. You're a nigger. A pant-shitting, faithless, cop-hating, society-wrecking, murderous, poor, uneducated dindu.

 No.195747

>>195741
You conveniently left out the fact that it's just not me, there is a great number of people who are dissatisfied with states and politicians and who benefit in zero ways from the existence of law, order and states. Your favorite and dear rich people only happen to have any sort of "power" because the state exists. Without the state and without the spook of money and status they are nothing but a bunch of weak, cowardly pussies.

Your definition of freedom is hilarious. You aren't free to do something if there are severe negative consequences to that thing (unless someone wants to die actively or to get locked up then of course he won't do that thing). By your definition anarchists should accept the existence of the state, lol, you are beyond hope, man.

>You're literally trying to argue for your right to eat the rich and not have anyone who disagrees try stopping you.

Quite obviously. I don't deny it. Why shouldn't I hate those who are responsible for my oppression and those who only want to exploit people like me? I'm not a cuckold like you, I'm not content with slaving away 40 hours a week for some ridiculous payment in order to be able to survive another week. Meanwhile I know people hoard up resources all over the world. Of course I want to shift the world and things to happen as would be favorable to me. Which would be a world without state and police where violence is the deciding factor of who gets what and not money or how well-adjusted (a cuckold) someone is.
>You're not an anarchist
Haha, yes because anarchists need to love the rich and to be good citizens of the state, what the hell, you can't accept that your retarded definition of anarchist simply isn't accurate. You are a phony anarchist, please don't call yourself one because you share exactly zero thing in common with actual anarchists. You are a libertarian or "anarcho"capitalist (which is an oxymoron I warn you now). Every collective which is built around private property and money can't be anarchism.

>You're a nigger. A pant-shitting, faithless, cop-hating, society-wrecking, murderous, poor, uneducated dindu.

Oh, so afraid that someone who is stronger than you might take your stuff, little kid? You are the one shitting his pants at the thought of true anarchy, when there would be no daddy cops and state to protect you from people like me. You calling me nigger is a classic, I love it. Actually, it is a flattery. Black people deserve credit for refusing to accept this capitalist dystopia we live in. They actually fight for their rights and freedom, unlike the majority of whites, sadly. Our race could learn a lot from them.

 No.195748

>>195737
>original anarchism had nothing to do with that at all
i dont care what gay retarded communists (roundabout statists) think or what people wearing the label of anarchist have done. the word has a clear definition and from that definition emerges a clear path of action to create the state of anarchy. anarchy comes from the words "an" and "archon" meaning absence of rulers. a ruler is someone who uses violence to make other people do what they want. if a ruler says "you must pay taxes" he gets his underlings to violently enforce that. if you could just ignore the ruler and not be violently assaulted then he would not be a ruler. but anyone can violently impose what they want, the distinction though is that rulers impose violence imorally, and regular people impose violence morally. you are not allowed to go to your neighbor and demand taxes from him, a ruler is though. that is the psychosis of rulership, moral relativism, the idea that some people have more rights than others.

where your distortion of anarchism fails is right at the start, the definition. you cannot even define anarchy without morality because rulership is a moral word, it inherently invokes a moral distinction. at most you could call the ruler the aggressor and the regular person the defender, but since you openly advocate aggression later in your post you have nothing left.

>It's clear you are a pacifist libertarian

where in my post did i rebuke the use of violence? violence can be used morally or immorally; i will cite the passage again since it is extremely important: "it is wrong to aggress upon others, and it is right to defend against others aggressing upon you".

>I want to be free, which implies being free to DO ANYTHING I want

which has nothing to do with anarchy, and is the mentality of a retarded child. you want your freedom but you dont give two shits if you enslave the whole world in the process, its all about you. anarchy necessitates strict adherence to morality, it is not about doing whatever you want just cause you feel like it.

>If you were an anarchist you would know that the state claims monopoly on the rights to violence and that is why it so hypocrite and rotten to have a state at all

the problem with the states monopoly on violence is that it restricts people from using self-defense, not that you arent allowed to rob and kill whoever you like. what youre saying is that you want to do everything the state does, but somehow youre an anarchist.

>If you preach objective morals you end with a state in the end, ironically, because you want to tell others what they can and can't do

if i tell my neighbor he cant break into my house am i a regular person or a statist? i doubt youre retarded enough to claim im an evil statist for telling my neighbor he doesnt have a right to my house. now if i tell my neighbor hes not allowed to drive his car without my permission am i a regular person or a statist? in this case im clearly acting as a statist because im telling him what he can and cant do when i have no RIGHT. figure out morality and a lot will become clear to you.

 No.195749

>>195748
A ruler is someone who rules over others, how is it ruling over others if I fight with them and take their stuff because I am stronger? I don't tell them what to do or how to live, I am simply stronger than them and therefore can possess their stuff. That's all.

You go on and on about morality like some preacher, priest or old lady. Yawn. Look, it isn't difficult to understand:
>"it is wrong to aggress upon others, and it is right to defend against others aggressing upon you"
is just retarded on many levels, mainly because what is considered aggression varies from person to person. If someone is a rich person who hoards up resources while I starve then I consider that aggression towards my person so I find it just to slice his throat and take his food.

Yes, in anarchy nobody has more rights than others. Like I said, using violence to get what you want isn't about rights, it is the natural state of the world. In the animal world the strongest gets what he wants too, why should it be different in society too?

Rulers and anarchists who rob are different. Rulers tell people what to do and set laws for them and they rely on the power of their underlings, they use the state itself to achieve their ends. Anarchists who rob from the rich don't tell them what to do, they have no interest in ruling others, they get what they want and that's it, they rely on themselves because they don't have thugs and policemen at their disposal. Yes, both use violence but so what?

I don't know where you learned this shit that anarchy isn't about doing what you want (then what the hell is the purpose of an anarchy? how is it different from statism?)

>i dont care what gay retarded communists (roundabout statists) think or what people wearing the label of anarchist have done.

You are the statist here, not me. You advocate for absolute morality so nobody would be free in that world of yours. That isn't freedom, that's slavery. If you care about morals then you are a libertarian at best but most likely you are just a conservative larping as an anarchist. Look, just read what actual anarchists thought and wrote instead of "anarcho"capitalists or whatever shit you have been fed.

 No.195750

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I don't know if I hate the self righteous debate me faggot or the ass who keeps enabling him more.

 No.195751

>>195749
>I am simply stronger than them and therefore can possess their stuff
so if i put a chain around your neck and whip you and make you work my fields then im not your ruler? i decide when you eat and drink, i decide whether or not you keep the fruits of your labor, i decide how long you work, and to you i am just a regular person.

>If someone is a rich person who hoards up resources while I starve then I consider that aggression towards my person

except you are wrong, since the rich person did not wave a magic wand and cast a spell of hunger on you. you, by way of being alive, started starving, its not the rich persons fault that you had to go and starve now is it?

>In the animal world the strongest gets what he wants too, why should it be different in society too?

>Anarchists who rob from the rich don't tell them what to do
and in the animal world the smartest and most socially dominant gets what he wants. the dumb nigger criminal (you) who goes around slicing peoples throats and taking their belongings lasts for a very short period of time doing what he does. the smart criminal knows that to be effective the victim must not know the identity of the perpetrator, so the smart criminal burglarizes houses while people arent home. now they dont know who did it, but they still know a crime has been committed, so they look for who committed the crime. eventually the smart criminal gets caught and the even smarter criminal realizes that to be even more effective the victims must not even know that a crime has been committed. at this level you have crimes like counterfeiting and fraud, but there is still a chance of getting caught like this so one must make the final leap. the smartest criminals in the world realize that in order to be the most effective, they must make sure the victim does not know their identities, does not know a crime has been committed because he doesnt think that the crime is a crime. this is the level that governments and bankers operate at, and they do not believe that what they are doing is moral. they lie to people, they deceive, they are smarter than the people the rob and so why do you think they shouldnt be entitled to all they can take?

>I don't know where you learned this shit that anarchy isn't about doing what you want

and i dont know where you learned that anarchy is doing whatever you want, oh wait, i do, you got it from mass media brainwashing. and i already told you where i learned it from, the etymological definition of the word, i.e., the actual meaning of it.

>just read what actual anarchists thought and wrote

just look at what "actual anarchists" created, the most oppressive governments in history.

 No.195752

>>195642
What a fucking idiotic way of thinking

 No.195753

>>195642
based beyond belief

 No.195776

>>195751
>so if i put a chain around your neck etc
If you can do it, if you are strong enough to accomplish it then you can do it. It won't make you a ruler because you accomplished it on your own, the ruler of a state uses laws and legal ways to justify why he sends men upon you. You wouldn't be a "ruler" because you fought me and got me for yourself. There is nothing wrong with men fighting out their problems with violence between each other. There is a problem with the state and rulers stepping in pretentiously, though. The state meddles in things where it doesn't have any business at all.

>except you are wrong, since the rich person did not wave a magic wand and cast a spell of hunger on you. you, by way of being alive, started starving, its not the rich persons fault that you had to go and starve now is it?

It's the rich's fault that I starve because they have many excess food to share with me and others yet they refuse to share anything. They are committing aggression on my person by withholding material stuff from me and so they contribute to increasing my pain and suffering in this world. I don't hold it against them because like I said morality is relative so it is their business what they do. But my business is to look for my gain and benefit so of course I will refuse a world where rich people can rule others through money and the state's power.

>and in the animal world the smartest and most socially dominant gets what he wants. the dumb nigger criminal (you) who goes around slicing peoples throats and taking their belongings lasts for a very short period of time doing what he does. ETC

Um, no. Lions don't sit down and have a legal debate with each other to see who has more food and who should lead therefore. They go fight it out between themselves using violence. Same for all species. Only humanity has gotten sick and degenerate and so it resorted to pacifism and the rule of money/capital and law/legalism/statism. The state and money are unnatural things, they shouldn't exist. These two things - state and money - ensure that weak and unworthy people can rule and lead in our societies. Aristocrats, CEOs, politicians, priests who couldn't even lift a sword or gun in the time of war if need be and who if on their own, couldn't even survive.
"The dumb nigger criminal" is indeed superior to a Donald Trump or a Joe Biden for that matter. The former is a warrior, the latter two are leeches only who can live in luxury thanks to civilization.

Your little brainstorming about crime and criminals is irrelevant since crime is a product of statism and the moralizing that comes with having a state. Because morality doesn't come with anarchy like you falsely think, it is a companion of tight collectives under strong state or church authority. Objective morality is invented always for the sake of justifying the laws of the state/church. Your "anarchy" would end up having a state because you want everyone to think the same things and to be the same. You want to impose objective morals onto everyone but to that you would need law and order and police. This is why I say you aren't an anarchist. You are anti-anarchist through and through. You are pro-money, pro-private property, pro-capitalism, pro-law enforcement, you don't have anything in common with anarchists. Stop referring to yourself as one.

>and i dont know where you learned that anarchy is doing whatever you want, oh wait, i do, you got it from mass media brainwashing. and i already told you where i learned it from, the etymological definition of the word, i.e., the actual meaning of it.

Then your little reasoning is shit. I didn't learn from mass media, I actually read anarchist literature and read up on anarchism, unlike you. You say you know what the word means but I doubt it. If there are no rulers that means you can do anything you want but apparently you don't want that so you end up with servitude again. Morality is always used to uphold social order and laws.

>just look at what "actual anarchists" created, the most oppressive governments in history

No anarchists ever created oppressive governments, the closest anarchist ever got to power was during the civil war in Spain. And they didn't create any oppressive government, they distributed resources equally and banned the use of money so the people were free and equal.

 No.195777

it's time for the purge.
'Tonight, we'll see the good and evil in everyone. '

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195642
didn't read

 No.195781

>>195776
>The state meddles in things where it doesn't have any business at all
you mean your private affairs, your private property? the state is interfering with what belongs to you? and you posit that theres something wrong with that?

>It's the rich's fault that I starve because they have many excess food to share with me

and what if youre the 15th niglet that your mother shat out? is whitey just supposed to give away all his wealth to support worthless niggers like you? and dont pretend that someone is committing an act of aggression when you say in the next sentence that you dont care about morality and you just want free shit. aggression is a moral concept, what you are saying is that you are entitled to the things of rich people, that you have a right to their property. you do not care about right or wrong, you want free shit.

>Lions don't sit down and have a legal debate with each other to see who has more food and who should lead therefore

because lions are dumb, and cant speak. lions cant influence the minds of other lions in complex ways like humans can. what i described to you was a completely natural evolution of crime, where the smartest rule. the only sickness and degeneracy to be found is in the criminal nature of it. and it may not have even been though of like that, but simply occurred due to natural selection. a strongarm mafia organization demanding a 10% cut from a business only lasts so long, meanwhile the people who convince others that god made them king last for centuries. again, its completely natural and logical, even if you think that evolution shouldnt tend towards creating parasites and leeches

>the latter two are leeches only who can live in luxury thanks to civilization

they devised civilization in order to rule you. the true rulers have been at this game for thousands of years, dominating all the retards who theyve duped into thinking a right to rule exists. do you think they just went up to a group of police officers and said "enforce my laws"? no, they were the ones who made the police force, they made all the mechanisms of control in society, this situation in which they risk nothing and gain everything is entirely their creation.

and there is no nobility in doing things the hard way. if you want to rob a bank would you rather do it yourself or have someone else do it and give you the money? simple choice. and if you had to enslave someone would you rather put them in iron chains and have them constantly try to break free, or have them in mental chains so that they serve you willingly? another easy choice. you chose to operate in the physical realm to commit crimes, and thats why youre on the bottom. it doesnt matter if youre the strongest guy on the planet and can take on 50 guys at once, if you want to rule the world you need to control peoples minds. in fact what would you even do if there was a king of the world and he was some freak giant that could squash a regular person, would you just get down and suck his dick because hes so strong and so he deserves to rule?

>Your little brainstorming about crime and criminals is irrelevant since crime is a product of statism and the moralizing that comes with having a state

almost, statism is a product of crime. over time criminals who are stupid and weak get caught or killed and smart and strong criminals remain. the smartest criminals realize that convincing people to willingly hand over their stuff is the best way to steal and so they dominate. that means that they also stomp out any lesser thieves (niggers like you) because they dont want you detracting from their profits.

>You want to impose objective morals onto everyone but to that you would need law and order and police

nope, all it really requires is that everyone be capable of defending themselves. if someone attacks you, you dont need to call 911 to uphold morality for you, you can use your own guns to uphold morality. and you can also uphold morality for others that cant, or need help.

its funny you say that i would need the organization of a state to enforce morality when you say that you want money abolished. how are you going to go about doing that? what happens if its discovered that someone was using money? where are the police to stop that horrible crime? and what if, god forbid, theyre using cryptocurrency, you would need an organization to make sure no one uses a computer without a rootkit on it to detect that sort of stuff. maybe even a computer licensing bureau, just to be safe. after all you cant expect that people wont find ways around the anti-cryptocurrency spyware measures.

>You are pro-money, pro-private property, pro-capitalism, pro-law enforcement, you don't have anything in common with anarchists

anarchy has nothing to do with monetary systems, as long as you arent harming anyone, you can use money or burn it in heaps. all anarchy requires is that you dont wrong anyone else, because that is the foundation of statism. the only "you shall not" that can come out of anarchists mouth is "you shall not aggress upon others", anything else is a restriction upon ones freedom and lifestyle. and i am in favor of law enforcement, except the laws are not made by lawmakers, nor are they enforced by police officers.

>I didn't learn from mass media

whos version of anarchy is the closest to that video below your post, yours or mine?

>If there are no rulers that means you can do anything you want but apparently you don't want that so you end up with servitude again

no, nothing like that would ever happen in the real world. if the government disappeared tomorrow and you starting attacking someone you would quite quickly find out that people do not need police to protect them. and if you walked over to a store and tried to rob it you would find out (like many did in the l.a. riots) that without police, justice is actually served more swiftly. without the delusion that police are there to protect you, people dont just roll over and hope for the best, they buy guns, they band together, they take responsibility for their personal protection.

>No anarchists ever created oppressive governments

communists, aspiring to create stateless societies (anarchy), thought that the best way to do this was to create totalitarian governments and then just have them dismantle themselves at some later date. although you are right that they arent really anarchists, they did want anarchy.

>the closest anarchist ever got to power was during the civil war in Spain

and thats all that needs to be said, you believe that anarchists rise to power.

 No.195783

I believe that humanity is evil. Humanity as a whole, acting as a collective entity. All humans do is negatively impact all other life in this planet, throw the system out of balance in every possible way.
I dislike industrial society, and social behaviour generally.
Society could never work harmoniously. People have a fetish on power, either for themselves or for someone else's to which they'll gladly give up their own autonomy in some or other respect. If the powers that be decide to make foul play, people will be on board with that even if it is damaging to them or their environment, as long as the mass condones it.
I don't know why there should be a god. I have never had any experience that would suggest me of a certain personality acting as a deliberate, absolute ruler of the universe in any way that could resemble a human intelligence or consciousness. The only reason I could have ever conceived the idea of a "god" is that I was told by someone else that such a being exists. However, far from being an atheist, I believe there is something like divinity, and that such divinity encompasses the whole of creation and so is not separate from anyhing that we perceive. I AM a materialist but I don't think that excludes the value and possibly the divinity of the natural world. I don't have much evidence of a soul, as I don't think our consciousness is a discrete element somehow separate from the whole of my identity and experience. I don't really believe in the theory that life is some supernatural substance that goes into an otherwise inert body, but the result of complex processes, and that we cannot really discern life from other complex processes, like for example, the fluid mechanics taking place inside a star. I'm not saying a star is necessarily equal in complexity or behaviour as a biological entity, but that it's processes might lie within a spectrum where life lies somewhere. I also do not think life is the only form of process there could necessarily exist in the universe displaying our level of complexity, and that completely unthought of kinds of processes might be somewhere in a remote corner of the universe. The spectrum within which life lies could also encompass many collective processes like that of an ecosystem, society, or the economy. I am saying that all these things may somehow be "alive" but that we have an idea of what "life" is that is informed by little more than our human experience as discrete individuals (as opposed to, say, an ant colony or a coral reef) anyhow.

 No.195784

>>195641
I am center-left eco-liberal. I believe in multiculturalism and equality of sexes. I am not religious but I do ascribe to spiritual and supernatural beliefs, particularly around the powers of human imagination.

I am a vegan and a pacifist. I am anti-space travel and believe that humans should fix our problems on Earth before we start thinking about other planets.

>I have a burning hatred for persons of authority of any kind (teachers, doctors, policemen, politicians, religious leaders, lawyers, judges, etc)

Same.

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I have no hope for the future, the presidents job is to maintain the capitalist status quo, not change anything, he is a manager at behest of a faceless bureaucracy. global warming and the insufficient response by the global north will induce a bloody revolution via drought, famine, mass migration, rising sea levels, mass extinction events, etc .Liberal idpol is very specifically meant to diversify the ruling class without threatening the continued existence of the class system.

Rich people that hated the New Deal and Keynesian economics took advantage of the Oil Shock and Stagflation to regain the power they had lost in the wake of the Great Depression. The neoliberal movement reached its apogee in the 90's with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Great Moderation, the 90's tech boom and The End of History and the Last Man.
The popping of the Dot-com bubble, the September 11 attacks and subsequent Global War on Terrorism, Afghan War, Iraq War, 2008 Financial crisis, Austerity, the Syrian Refugee Crisis, the rise of China and Brazilification of America has shattered people's faith that the neoliberals have any idea what they are doing or are able to solve the problems that society faces.

Increasingly you see companies use negative backlash as a means to cast the consumption of their products with an ethical dimension. "crab Nazi Chuds HATE the new star wars, show them they are not welcome by joining the resistance and Disney+
now!".

sjws: resource competition and status signaling

millennial leftists are failed PMC's not working class, they expected to become part of the elite but many factors prevented that. their main goals in life are student debt relief and free college, not exactly working class agenda. something to appeal to the bernie sanders and chapo trap house listening crowd.

The End of History is real, but it's not liberalism. It's post-liberalism. Therapeutic, "woke" oligarchy under careful management by the PMC who work tirelessly to make sure that there is no bigotry to be found.

I dont know what i subscribe to politically, i have gone from different extremes, i was a fascist, commie, anarchist, i could never be a basic bitch liberal or conservative. I hate centrists. I think ive just settled on being a pessimist.

 No.195789

>>195781
I mean the state meddles with the lives of individuals. Private property is a product of the state, that is its whole foundation among other things. If things were owned collectively then there would be no ruling party or rulers. The state is an artificial creation made for the purpose of preserving the class system.

>niglet this

>nigger that
No arguments since we aren't on /pol/, you gonna have to put more thought into your posts if you want to be taken seriously.
>worthless niggers
So who is a "worthless nigger" in your definition? Anyone who refuses to wagecuck away all his life? Then consider me a "worthless nigger" since I always avoided wageslavery in all variations, I have always been NEET and I am proud of it. There is no dignity in slavery.
>aggression is a moral concept
No, you even know the words you are using? If someone does something harmful to me then he is committing aggression towards me, this doesn't have anything to do with morals, it is plain and objective facts we are talking about. Yes, I want free shit. Duh. Your problem with this being? Be careful what you answer, we aren't on /pol/, we are supposed to be on a site for NEETs among other things.

So by your logic you think trannies are natural too because they exist? They don't exist in nature, naturally men are born as either male or female. If you think trannies are anti-nature then so is the state because states don't exist in nature.

>do you think they just went up to a group of police officers and said "enforce my laws"?

Yes, this is how police forces are made. You offer to share with people some of your resources or money in this case if they do something for you. They do it, even though they stupidly don't realize that they would be better off if they just killed the guy and took his possessions.

>if you want to rob a bank would you rather do it yourself or have someone else do it and give you the money? simple choice. and if you had to enslave someone would you rather put them in iron chains and have them constantly try to break free, or have them in mental chains so that they serve you willingly? another easy choice.

I don't want anyone to serve me, I want people to serve themselves, unlike you. This is the huge difference between a true anarch like me and a false, phony anarch like you. There is nobility and sense in doing things yourself, this way you will become more independent, self-reliant and stronger in every sense. Working with servants and thugs through pretentious moralism, legalism and state power can work only so long as your servants refuse to face reality. Once they awaken they will kill you, see Russian Revolution. Once the proletariat realized the situation they destroyed the entire royal family. Having a world where people operate separately is one of my main objectives. Statism is about working together, forcing people into a tight collective. Anarchism is about free choice, people would be free to partner up with each other without any pressure from anyone.
>if there was a king of the world and he was some freak giant that could squash a regular person, would you just get down and suck his dick because hes so strong and so he deserves to rule?
No, I wouldn't do anything with him most likely since in anarchy people only meddle with others' business if it is in their best interest to do so. What do I care if some guy 200 kms away forms a gang and goes around looting people? Good for him. If I had a problem with him then I would outsmart him, stab him in the back.

>statism is a product of crime

If there is no state there is no crime! Understand it already. There are no universal values, you dumbo.
So you support vigilantism, so do I. At least we can agree on one thing. But you feel the need to portray yourself as the good guy at all cost with morality while I'm honest about things.

Money would be abolished by the revolution, with violence. We don't need a police for it, the people can take care of it if they understand our points finally.

Anarchy has plenty to do with monetary systems. Money always implies exploitation, inequality, slavery, private property, etc. Capitalists can't be anarchists because capitalism is always based on law and public order.
You are a retard, people wrong each other all the time and "aggress" upon each other, that is the nature of the world. You do it too without even realizing it.
>and i am in favor of law enforcement, except the laws are not made by lawmakers, nor are they enforced by police officers.
Great, even more idiosyncratic beliefs on your part. How do you support law enforcement without police or lawmakers, you moron? If there is no lawmaker then there is no law, sorry to wake you up.

>whos version of anarchy is the closest to that video below your post, yours or mine?

Didn't watch it but you claiming my version of anarchy is "mainstream" is just ridiculous. Most "anarchists" nowadays are similar to you, they are moralist, pacifist middle-class faggots roleplaying as rebels when their values are the same middle class values just in another package. You claim you want freedom but you are afraid of true freedom and shit your pants at the thought of a truly free world. I guess "freedom" for your kind means being able to choose who you slave away for and not actual freedom, owning yourself. True freedom only comes with violence and conflicts.

>people don't need the police to protect them

Most middle-class and upper-class citizens would beg to differ. Also, succubi in general would start a hysterics you never saw before if the police disappeared tomorrow. I agree that vigilantism is a swifter way of having your revenge (or justice) than legal procedures. But that vigilantism itself implies immorality because it is might makes right. You are so deluded when you try to include moralism in your anarchist mindset. Do you think old people could protect their property through vigilantism? Don't make me laugh. Anarchy wouldn't serve any moral purpose, it would serve best the egoist, the amoral, like me.

State Communism and anarchy are two different things. They never wanted anarchy, they wanted proletarian dictatorship.
Anarchists rise to power, yes. If they can do it. You can't create anarchy without first having power. Duh.

 No.195794

>>195651
I think the only reason you disagree is because you consider egoism to be a negative.

 No.195795

Sentience is the sole problem to be solved yet we're too simple minded to tackle it. At this point we'll just accidentally stumble into a solution eventually or time helps us out.
Either way, all else is just complex expressions of the universal desire to end sentience; no different from the force of gravity pulling water to the lowest accessible point yet forming complex rivers and shaping the landscape as by-product.

 No.195796

>>195794
no, i can see that it obviously benefits a lot of people despite my personal feelings about it. i just dont think that everyone is an egoist just because they do basic things that every living thing does to continue living. there is a gradient of self-interest and i dont see egoist as a baseline but to label a certain place onward on that spectrum.

 No.195798

>>195789
>I mean the state meddles with the lives of individuals
in other words, your life and my life, our lives. you are talking about possession, rightful possession. you are ascribing the life of an individual to that individual. you arent saying "the state meddles with life", youre saying the state meddles with the lives of (indicating possession and ownership) individuals. if the state had a right to other peoples things then you would not perceive any meddling as having taken place.

>Private property is a product of the state, that is its whole foundation among other things. If things were owned collectively then there would be no ruling party or rulers

no, private property has no reliance on the existence of a state, there are many examples of hunter gatherer cultures having private property. and private property cant be a product of the state and at the same time its foundation, choose one retard. as for collective ownership, im having trouble envisioning what that would look like, could you provide examples?

>No arguments since we aren't on /pol/

sounds like you just dont want to reply. the argument i made is very valid, do you want me to retype it out replacing the word nigger with african?

>So who is a "worthless nigger" in your definition?

i consider criminals worthless niggers, but niggers dont bother me as much as you think. i used the word to illustrate an example, that is, if people create hungry mouths at a rate faster than at which they can be fed, are people morally obligated to give away what they have, even to the point where everyone starves? and this brings up another point, why dont you blame your parents for endowing you with all these needs? they were the ones who forced you into this situation, if anyone has blame for you starving its them, not rich people.

>If someone does something harmful to me then he is committing aggression towards me, this doesn't have anything to do with morals

and what constitutes harm to you? is it when someone punches you in the stomach? or is it when they punch their own stomach? you believe that there is a distinction between what is yours, and not yours, that is private property, that is morality. if you believed that "yours" and "mine" did not exist then you would not see a difference between someone else getting harmed and yourself getting harmed. when you say "aggression towards me" what youre saying is towards your property, your body. aggression is not when i cut my hand off, i have every right to cut my hand off, its my hand, but when i do it to you, then it is aggression.

>So by your logic you think trannies are natural too because they exist?

when estrogen is in the water supply and men are told not to be men, then trannies will naturally and invariably come to be. and with the state, if a population accepts immorality and acts immorally, statism with naturally and invariably follow. its not natural in the sense that its the ways things are and ought to be, its a natural consequence of immorality.

>Yes, this is how police forces are made

the statement presumed the existence of police. if police already existed there would be no need to make police forces, but you get the point that police forces were created by rulers.

>I don't want anyone to serve me, I want people to serve themselves, unlike you

yes people should serve themselves unless it harms others, and that doesnt mean theyre serving others. you dont have to hold the door open for anyone, you dont have to donate to charity, you need to do the bare minimum of not acting like a savage nigger. other than that your paragraph is almost completely fine.

>If there is no state there is no crime!

the state does not determine what a crime is, regardless of the popular belief that it can. as you yourself have said, harm and aggression are objective concepts, and this is what makes a crime a crime. why would the existence of a state have any effect on the reality of whether something is right or wrong? if you lived in a stateless part of the world and there was a government elsewhere would crime still exist for you? what if you lived within the so called territory of that state, does crime exist then? its nonsensical. either crime objectively exists or it objectively does not. the state is not the arbiter of truth.

>But you feel the need to portray yourself as the good guy at all cost with morality while I'm honest about things

im not portraying myself as the good guy, i dont want to harm people and that makes me a regular person. you on the other hand, want to hurt people and so you argue fervently against objective morality. why is that, got a problem with being the bad guy? if i accept your line of thought, nothing changes for me, if you accept my line of thought, you have a whole lot of work to do on your character.

>We don't need a police for it, the people can take care of it if they understand our points finally

so how do you stop cryptocurrency from being used?

>Money always implies exploitation, inequality, slavery, private property, etc.

lmao, ok, so now you have a problem with exploitation, inequality, and slavery? aside from the fact that you would willingly perpetuate all of those by other means, what do you think is so bad about slavery? is it wrong? what about inequality, whats so bad about that?

>You are a retard, people wrong each other all the time and "aggress" upon each other, that is the nature of the world

great now were getting somewhere, so you do think right and wrong exists, but you just dont care about it.

>Didn't watch it but you claiming my version of anarchy is "mainstream" is just ridiculous

not at all, the video shows people doing whatever they want, killing, stealing, to the masses anarchy is a concept fit for a horror movie. it is exactly what they envision when you say the word "anarchy", people acting like savages and eating each other. it has nothing to do with what self-proclaimed anarchists think, this is what 99% of people on the planet believe anarchy is. among self-proclaimed anarchists the percentage is lower, but my perception is that most self-proclaimed anarchists are either communists or cant rid themselves of all statist tendencies in some other capacity.

>How do you support law enforcement without police or lawmakers, you moron?

i support the universal, natural law of morality. its not idiosyncratic, its integral to anarchy. without morality being unchanging, natural (i.e. having nothing to do with what man thinks of it) and binding upon every soul there is no reasonable basis for anarchy. and "lawmaker" is an oxymoron unless youre using it in reference to a god. laws are, as i described, unchanging, natural, and binding, like gravity. the law of gravity is not the same thing as the "law" of not having a gun that under 18 inches long.

>You claim you want freedom but you are afraid of true freedom and shit your pants at the thought of a truly free world

in both your world and mine i am free to uphold morality by stopping others from aggressing upon me, and others are free to do so too. what would i be so scared of?

>I guess "freedom" for your kind means being able to choose who you slave away for and not actual freedom, owning yourself

i laughed out loud when i read this. owning yourself? where did you hear that one mr.abolish private property? i guess a stopped clock is right twice a day. now think through that "owning yourself" concept to the end and you have true anarchy, thats the key right there. if you own yourself, exclusively, then it is wrong for others to you what you do not consent to, because you are the only one that can decide what can be done with your body and your property. any and all actions done to you and your property are claims of ownership, because one only has a right to his property. therefore any crime committed against another is a form of slavery, no matter how minor. taking 100% of what someone produces is slavery, taking 50% of what someone produces is slavery, and taking 1% of what someone produces is still slavery.

the issue you have with this though is that owning yourself cannot be justified without recognizing that others own themselves too, and it is wrong to violate that principal.

>Most middle-class and upper-class citizens would beg to differ

they would, but they would be wrong. people will be amazed at how foolish they were when they realize guns deter criminals and not phones to dial 911 with. as for the weak people, they will have to band together with the strong for protection, and strong people would band together as well regardless because there is strength in numbers. this isnt theorizing solutions in a grand ideological plan, this is basic human nature. how do you think the old and weak got by before governments were around?

>But that vigilantism itself implies immorality because it is might makes right

no actually, vigilantism implies morality because it comes from the word vigilant, like watchful. as in youre watching for a crime to occur, and then acting from a position of defense against aggression; you arent being vigilant for people who leave their car doors unlocked.

>State Communism and anarchy are two different things. They never wanted anarchy, they wanted proletarian dictatorship.

state communism is an oxymoron, communism necessitates the absence of a state (though they will never achieve that). the communists, wanting to abolish the state in the end, determined that in order to do so they first had to have a transitional period where they have a socialist government. the end goal however, is obviously never reached, and the all powerful state goes on to commit atrocities in the name of the revolution. they do try to get you to forget about the anarchy bit though, like when they did the great purge in the ussr.

 No.195825

>>195798
I had these discussions with you numerous times on this place and you always just continue to parrot your idiosyncratic views without thinking through what you argue for. You are totally hopeless.

Just to answer a few of your points as the discussion branched into way too many directions:
- private property comes into existence through state power, if there is no holy state and holy laws then there is no private property. The state creates private property in order to ensure the existence of classes and hierarchies. If no private property then no rulers because without private property ranks are just empty titles. Without money and a huge amount of capital/private property the state and the rulers aren't worth anything. Anarchy necessarily means equality and freedom, to ensure this you have to get rid of private property. You aren't an anarchist because you still defend the social structure of state power and exploitation. It's obvious at this point that you hate freedom and equality and only campaign for your middle-class capitalist liberal interpretation of these things.
- I don't hate my parents because I'm not a self-hating cuckold. My parents aren't responsible for the fact that we live in this capitalist dystopia. It's not like those rich people would starve if they shared their wealth with others, they just wouldn't be able to have orgies on their yachts and private islands and wouldn't be able to own 50 planes but only 1. It's honestly quite entertaining that you defend these rich people so much while probably you yourself aren't one of them. Your cuckold attitude is disgusting to anyone with a tiny bit of pride. You can't these people without being ridiculous, unless of course you belong to their circles.
- Morals aren't natural things and neither they are objective despite you being an autist about this thing and going on saying that they are. Ask two people about what is moral, ask a 100, and they won't agree. Because there is no good or bad. Morals were invented to preserve the status quo and if you can't see this then you are again, beyond any hope. The reason why you argue for your own version of morality so much is because you want to control people and to make them act in ways that are beneficial to you. You probably never had to struggle in your life or inherited lots of wealth and therefore you want to preserve private property at all cost. That is why you cling to shit like "no aggression" - lol, what aggression? It's bad if I use violence to take food and stuff from rich people but it is okay if they don't give any to me? That's not aggression apparently since it is "theirs". There is no theirs or mine, you retard. If I steal your wallet then it is mine, so much for divine morals and spook of private property. I know what you will say, I said 'your' therefore I acknowledge private property! No, you see this is a figure of speech. I could say the wallet that you use or something like that but we won't argue over words, right?
- Yes, crimes can only exist in states. There is no crime without a legal system that calls said act a crime.
- Like I said, you already harm people by simply just existing. You can't exist with stepping on another's toe. That is why moralizing is pointless. It is okay to harm others by exploiting and enslaving them but it isn't okay to use violence, says you. I say that is like your own morality and not mine or universal morals at all.
- Crypto would be stopped from being used by the people. People can take care of themselves if they are educated properly.
- No, my version of anarchy is quite unpopular because people bought into this comfy middle-class anarchy that you subscribe to too, about pacifism and existing together without any sort of conflict somehow the minute the state disappears. I honestly doubt that you are older than 18. Your whole worldview is so incredibly shallow, superficial and childish. You believe in objective morals, that most people are "good" and whatever shit. Come on.
>"lawmaker" is an oxymoron
>laws are, as i described, unchanging, natural, and binding, like gravity
Delusional to a spectacular level. Mind sharing with us then what are these objective and divine laws you adhere so much? And why doesn't everyone else adhere to the same laws and morals? You have to be sub90 IQ to believe that your own particular morality is objective, unchanging and natural and whatnot.
- You claim people should own themselves too but you want to force people to acknowledge your morals first of all. That isn't ownership of self, that is. If you place morality above yourself then you don't own yourself. Morality is always about community and society. You can't own yourself if you aren't free to do what you want. God, I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who says he is an anarchist.
> how do you think the old and weak got by before governments were around?
Probably not very well at all, that is why tribes and such made traditions about killing people over a certain age and killing any children that showed weakness. The existence of states and laws benefit the weak the most after the rulers. That is why old people and wymen are most likely to fight for statism and a strong state in some form.
>vigilantism
You are being vigilant against attacks from others you idiot, it has nothing to do with morals, aggression or crimes. Are you sure you are completely all right mentally? Sounds like your worldview completely rotted your brain away.
>state communism is an oxymoron
You know what else is an oxymoron? Moral anarchy. Laws and Anarchy. An anarchy where people can't do what they want. Your political ideology is one big oxymoron. You are the biggest oxymoron I ever heard about.



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