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Were you born unattractive or are you just unattractive because of lack of effort?

I realized recently that my base body is actually apparently attractive. I am 6" and have broad shoulders and a normal looking face.

I have really bad posture, no effort self-haircut, oversized t-shirt + jeans, low muscle, outdated glasses, ec. that makes me ugly.

I don't really care enough to try to be attractive at this point, but it's just something I never really thought about. I guess I should consider myself lucky. I'm curious about others wizards. Are you genetically unattractive?



i'm not particularly tall. about 5'8. never seen myself as handsome or appealing in any way or fashion, but for three days i've been doing daily stretches, went on runs, and started working on my posture, and i've noticed, that i'm stopping to care whether i'm attractive or not. i'm working on myself for myself, and that's nice.
still would kill myself if i had a gun though. also fuck succubi


I can’t really say anything what I think, but random people have told me I look like a model, and I’m not shitposting, but I think I look at least average, I take care of myself but I’m not interested in sex or relationships so why do I bother? why not


I am unattractive due to intentional effort
Wild hair, cheap clothes, mean face, defensive/aggressive posture.

Picked up the habit as a filter for dealing with tough guy bullshit, being that it seperated the people that were looking for a ego boost but not actually a threat from the people who are a threat so it was "socially acceptable" to skip the bullshit straight to the fight without holding back.
My social skills at the time weren't quite good enough to tell the two apart. So cultivating a look and reputation as someone who was willing and able to get violent with anyone that would step to me saved me the trouble of trying to guess who was there to fight and who just wanted to trade insults.

Thankfully I grew out of tough guy bullshit before my luck ran out and I ended up dead, in jail, or trapped in crime. But I kept the look because people left me alone.

Do note that you have to have all 3 for it to work.
For example if you just have the hair and bad attitude but nice clothes you will get bothered by succubi that are into bad boys.
Do just the hair and cloths without the attitude then people will think you are just poor and week so it would be safe to use and abuse you, ect.
I don't know when you grew up but during the 90s they pushed this lie that looks don't matter.
That is bullshit. People very much interact with you (or don't) based on their impression they get from your appearance. When I figure that out I used it to dissuade people from fucking with me in every sense of the word.

That said I do have a secret desire to on day go to some far off place no one knows me and then for a few days be as elegant, Fancy, and even flamboyant in ostentatious clothing and luxurious accessories. To do dumb shit like go to a show or a ball dressed up like a fairy tale gentleman or something.
Then go back to being gruff and mostly invisible with no one being the wiser.

Doubt I would ever do it. It's a lot of money, effort, and planning just to be vain for a few days.
Getting so off topic. Whatever.


my mom says I'm handsome



born a 2/10


I am not ugly but i don't like my body because i look like a succubus…


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-yellow teeth from not brushing when I was young (brush now)
-little chubby
-on the spectrum
-have the verbal and social IQ of a 8 year old child
-not charismatic or funny, due to low intelligence
-constant social and general anxiety
-working a part-time job
-5/10 face
-parents died, so on my own

Yup, I'm a volcel


>Picked up the habit as a filter for dealing with tough guy bullshit
I ended up doing the same thing. You have to really - if you're forced to be around people for extended periods of time - or they become like a pack of feral dogs who got a taste of blood.

Your curiosity of putting on a fake persona for the day is very much doable, by the way. I can picture you doing it. I recommend seeing an opera or classical music concert.
I know because I've done this once.


You don't seem to have the IQ of an 8 year old on here.


If it wasn't for my height, I probably would have just killed myself by now.


why isn't this shit in /dep/


I am overweight and only 5'9 but my face is alright and attractive to the people that like my 'style'. My shoulders are broad, not too much, I'm strong.
I am trying to lose weight because I feel disgusted looking at myself in the mirror. I am 220lbs right now and my goal is reaching this weight but with muscle and not fat


OP here. I'm 6 feet and 165 and I'm kind of in the middle of "normal weight" category. The idea of me gaining 55 pounds of muscle is a pretty ridiculous goal, let alone someone who's 3 inches shorter than me getting to that same weight with a low body fat percentage.


Even when I was working and really trying people thought I was ugly


How can you tell?


Someone I worked with told me one day they were saying these bad things about me. I quit the next week and stopped bothering. This was some time ago. I don't doubt it though because they way they looked at me said it all, you can just tell


Can you be more specific? I can't imagine someone would just tell you to your face, unless they were angry with you for some reason. From my experience if you leave people alone they generally will be neutral towards you.


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wizardly posture


What does it matter when you aren't trying to attract people?


Old succubi say I'm handsome


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>unattractive because of lack of effort

That guy in your OP is still attractive with that extremely fake bad posture because of his face. If you are ugly no haircut or posture or clothes will help you.


I don't think I'm unattractive honestly. I got an okay face, 6'2, 178 lb, and go to the gym 4-5 days a week. I have a lot of flaws too, but I got enough going for me that I'm attractive to enough succubi to know it's not my appearance that's keeping me a wizard. I'm just painfully introverted and socially awkward. I have a lot of trouble understanding my own feelings and communicating my thoughts. I'm low-energy, unmotivated, depressed, and self-hating. That's what's unattractive about me, not my appearance.


I'm ugly but not repulsive
I'm still depressed and leading a shitty life because of that
I'm conviced if I had at least an okay face my life would be much more enjoyable since I have qualities which do not matter if you disgust people at first sight


ugly face = ugly mind


child: very cute
teenager: cute
young adult: decent
adult: average

if i had to rate my appearances over time it would look like that. im slowly aging into a fat homeless santa claus and it feels weird to see myself in the mirror


I have asymmetrical facial features that have only become more pronounced in various ways with age. So yes. While pretty much nobody is perfectly symmetrical, people with greater symmetry are objectively considered more attractive at a base level, for a tendency towards greater symmetry represents better, more robust genes. The less symmetrical your face is, the more "ugly" you will innately be considered. Sometimes this gets overlooked, I think it's more important to the question of looks and how attractive one is to others than people admit.

Otherwise I'm probably "eh okay" and it's a lack of giving a damn about attracting someone, because I'm not obese, poorly shaven, or short, the typical attributes to complain about.


true, but the fault of that does not rest on the ugly but the people who mistreat them and bully them.


I’m mainly a mentalcel


Do you think that being attractive will solve issues in your life? If so, what issues? If not, then why do you care?


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being good looking means life on easy mode. You wouldn't even have to wageslave a second in your life, also no bullying, since normalfags, and really all humans in general, adore and respect the beautiful so much they'd pay you to see you walk(be a model), or to be seen with them, or appear for some secs in a video using a product, etc., basically you'd just have to exist if you are good looking.


That also means that you would have to socialize, or at the very least constantly interact, with normalfags in order to take advantage of your looks.
Admittedly, being attractive might allow for for interactions that are more favourable in regards to the status quo, but why tf would you want that? I hate the current post-modern culture and if the reason for being attractive is to be further integrated into it then I disagree with that being a plus. If it's just to make interactions easier, fuck it. If getting what I want takes a bit more confrontation and abrasiveness, oh well.


I was told by succubi schoolmates back in my teens that if I wasn't a lard ass I'd be attractive.
I disagree, I have a pretty asymmetric face and I'm only 5'8. I also use intentionally plain clothes, don't shave nor cut my hair. Even if I improved these things, which would take a lot of effort to me, I wouldn't be attractive.


yep, being good looking means you will make friends with ease and be given loads of attention while young, making so you have good social skills from an early age, which snowballs into an easy life


The guys in that picture suppose to be good looking though? They look like complete dorks. That's how I imagine nerdy wizzies would look like if they suddenly became dumber and hit the gym for 2 years hoping it would grand them entrance into normal society.


hitting the gym for 2 years does grant entrance into normal society for losers though unless they're ridiculously genetically cursed


Awesome humble bragging wizzie, some quality wizardly posting
"I'm a celibate virgin but let me still profess how superior I am in the sexual market if I DID want to have sex"


>that neck/jaw clenching
have fun with your distorted extremity fascia bud


>but why tf would you want that

let's solve this with a quick analogy shall we
>you're a gazelle on the steppes of Africa
>you've come to grow resentful of the current state of the world, making predators prevalent, and having you live every second of your life in fear
>next morning you awake as some gazelle mutant (yes this analogy is supposed to be stupid, just like you) with offensive mechanisms, claws fangs whatever
>you can now do whatever you want on the steppes of Africa
does that make sense to you

if you so resent this 'post-modern culture' there's two ways to approaching it. figuratively taking it up the ass, or channeling your resentment to come out on top. being attractive is a sort of manipulative magic in current society


A normalfaggot meme.
>genes being the only thing
Nurture matters as much as nature.


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Your effort barely matters.
What really sets your life up is your parents effort.


That is a female, not a human, so it doesn't really apply.


I thought posting pictures of 3D succubi was banned? When did they lift the rule?


Is that pic "solely intended to arouse, attract or fawn over"?


That's not how it was worded before, it was an absolute ban. I'm certain of it.


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You are certainly wrong then.
Their has never been a total ban, only one depended on context, usually requiring sexualization.

Otherwise posting music clips or movie poster that in any way involved females would cause bans that would disrupt conversation in those subjects for no good reason.

Plus wouldn't be able to make fun of succubi as easily ether.


Maybe I'm thinking of a different site. I remember seeing posters get banned for posting music albums.


are you referring to the k-pop poster?


I've got a decent face but it doesn't mean anything if you're a socially retarded manchild


Nah for some reason I thought there was a straight up 3DPD ban at one point. There is another site that does that, but I think it was more that it was a self-moderation thing that has fallen out of style now.


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Brave skeleton hunters, this is your mission.


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Four more years is nice. It's a meme number but it's nice. I sacrafice six months to play Crayola Deviantart Scrooge McDuck, attacking your legal representation directly with a black ops team one day from ….


You'd have to be genetically super attractive (>0.01%) and also lucky in some ways like getting scouted and hitting it big etc to not be able to work and treated like a god like in your fantasies. If you are autistic and awkward, people will also start tiring of you.
It's like saying if I was born with parents who gave me 10 million dollars it would be great and I wouldn't have to work and could have an easy live… such an amazing revelation


I was a fairly good looking kid. Sure I was weird but that's an other story. I suppose I became uglier and uglier during puberty (it should've been the other way around). Vitiligo, balding, nearsightedness, bad posture lol


I used to think I was born unattractive, but looking back on my old photos and I was really good looking. I just was completely blind to social norms, though, so I was very much socially unattractive.


Meh I don't think I'm unattractive or ugly, just average, I'm a bit fat though,I'm also a manlet at 168cm but I don't care since everyone here is a manlet too.


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I wonder how much uglyness plays into our role in society and wizard status. Would we really be normies if only we looked good?

Is the wizard mindset just skin-deep?


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I've made it past 6'8 (200cm+).
I got several confessions from succubi I never talked to in school, one of them looked like a model, she was very slender, pale, had short black hair and eyes, a succubus once asked me if she could kiss me out of the blue.
Today I shaved my whole body and I'm letting my hair grow. I was called cute in school often, despite my height.
I think I'm an abomination, I think succubi in my country just have low standards. I can't bear looking at myself in a mirror.


Succubi often lie. Also I was quote good-looking in my youth and here I am.


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I wish I was handsome instead of a fat manlet bastard, not because I want to attract whores or something like that, I would like to be handsome because life is really easier that way, I want to learn how to swim but I'm scared shitless of being near a pool because I'm fat and people would laugh at me, if I was a slim handsome guy I could go and learn how to swim and have a good time at the local pool.


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No one cares if you're fat if you're the fastest swimmer.
Swimming is the best physical activity.


fat people are less likely to be great swimmers (same with short people due to their arm length and drag force) since they have to carry their fat which would slow them down, and if they even get good at swimming, they'd lose weight and probably wont be fat anymore (swimming helps burn fat a lot)


fat people are great non olympic swimmers, better than your average person because of buoyancy


uninhibited normalshits don't understand what is like to be self conscious or have anxiety.


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I used to be obese and was godlike in every sport I practiced. My parents made me practice everything from hapkido and soccer to fencing and horse riding, I was usually the best and stole all the medals in events. The secret to physical and mental energy is eating a lot of good food when you~re young. Youll find many intelligent people are chubbies too.


im the opposite, i've put in great effort all my life but im just genetic trash. in every category im under average.


fat people are simply delusional


lack of effort of me thanks to mental problems and being a neet but i dont care man all succubus are the same whores


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I'm naturally hideous. I've had people whisper god damn as they walked past me and even one person told me I was the ugliest person they've ever seen.


>large mishapen head (like a lightbulb)
>weird oval plate like thing on my forehead
>large flat spot in back with another lump
>slightly caved in one one side
>terrible hair line but I shave it
>eyebrows sit slightly in eye sockets
>crooked jaw
>crooked teeth
>large nose
>bird chest that's caved in on one side
>knock knees

and probably other shit I haven't noticed. I saw a picture of myself and was once shocked at just how bad I looked and though that something was wrong with the camera but it in fact wasn't. That was how I actually look.

People treat me as if I'm not even human when they're forced to interact but being that I'm so small I'm basically invisible which I guess is good.

I used to agonize over how I look but I've come to accept it after reading something how if death was infinite there would be no life and I've come to realize that looking like this is paying for sins committed in a past life. Though if given a chance to leave this would I would take it without a second though. Suicide is an inevitably but at this point while I don't have a reason to live I don't have a reason to die either. I still enjoy some games and anime as well as media.


What I see here is guys who have given up and won't even try anymore.


Do you know what website you’re on?


I'm not short or ugly or anything, probably slightly above average looking, but I don't dress well, I still wear the same shitty bent glasses I had since middle school and I also cut my own hair. Unless you are actually beautiful just being slightly above average will not make up for being a wizard.



Wizards are at best mediocre looking, mostly born that way. Look at the examples we know from history and they were always born with unfortunate bone structure.

The ones in this thread claiming to be handsome are either delusional or just the usual failed normies that you get anywhere coming in to humblebrag.


>Yeah bros, I'm a total wizchad. Anyone else a tall and good looking wizard?
beautiful thread


Come on man, you need to man up and be yourself :)
just start trying bro im sure a cool witch is out there waiting for you haha


Yeah it's at least partially because of that. My body could look good if I lost fat and built muscle. My face would still be just mediocre 5/10 and my hairline would still be on the top of my head but I'd look much better than now.
I think I dress alright already but haven't put in the effort to make it really good and consistent so I guess that could be better too.


So in conclusion, I would not be able to be Chad but I could at least look quite a bit better than I do now.


top crab post


Hello succubus


Yeah >>181712
>Wizards are at best mediocre looking, mostly born that way
Yeah almost all of us. That doesn't mean that there are 0 good looking wizards. Since people here generally don't even want to get succubi, there could be some real volcels.
There might also be some good looking but mentally ill posters.



>There might also be some good looking but mentally ill posters
yea this, people often told me I look good but Im really retarded and strange and have mental disease


I just look like a big mean slav. If I worked out, I would look like a bigger mean slav.


I'm a 4/10 at best. The kinda guy you wouldn't even notice outside because he looks so bland and uninteresting


I used to think I was ugly but I also had long hair, skeleton limbs, long-ish fingernails and didn't develop decent facial hair until my 20s. People get offended by the sight of those things so I got bullied because of it.

I eventually realized that I'm overwhelmingly average and it provides the perfect opportunity to become invisible. Dress smart casual and cut my own hair in a conventional style. Shaving every few days is perfect for my average face, I never look scruffy nor completely clean. My teeth are not great but if I don't smile nobody will ever know. Working out made me less of a skeleton but I mainly did it to eliminate muscle pain from sitting in front of a computer all day. I'm 5'9 which is probably perfect for trying to be invisible, not that much shorter than most guys and not tall enough for succubi to notice. Nobody looks at me with disgust anymore, they barely even look at me at all.

One downside is that old people feel comfortable asking me for help or starting conversations which can be annoying if I don't feel like practicing small talk. I also wonder what normalfags think of me when they realize that I'm actually an imposter, they don't seem offended like they were by my old appearance but it clearly does bother some of them.


That's the style I went with too but it was because that's the style that I like.


Dead average and autistic as fuck, never began. Not like I had a choice,if I had a choice I wouldn't have been born.

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