this sucks wiz.
I think as long as people dont hint to being sims for the succubi there is no problem.
They are no more 3D than normal anime succubi really.
That was one cute thread :( sad it is gone
there is a 3d female behind the 2d avatar and by discussing this subject you are having a discussion about/fawning over a 3d female that uses a 2d avatar
By that logic all 2d should be banned because there is a 3d person who in part or in whole created the 2d.
Especially anime, cartoons, and video games.
By your logic they must all be banned.
no because when it's anime or cartoons or video games it is characters in a fantasy land that follow a director or story writer, vtubers are internet whores hiding behind anime avatars to get weeb bux
>>60672>>60673>when it's anime or cartoons or video games it is characters in a fantasy land that follow a director or story writer
also that person in the op is not even japanese and so wouldnt even belong on jp anyway
I want to see some good arguments in this thread.
Why is there a distinction?
Worship of 2d succubi is already quite controversial here as it isn't very wizardly. But at least anime succubi are just characters in a story (usually written by a man), with 3d succubi merely voicing them. With v-tubers it is an actual 3dpd who is hiding behind a 2d avatar. They are not just following lines from a story but actually interacting with the audience, exactly like a streamer succubus would. And as other anon said the shark succubus isn't even japanese.
I look forward to seeing a list of Wizard approved V-tubers
only crabs or monk larpers would hate on people liking 2D succubi.
I see the point of both sides especially the danger of allowing Vtuber discussion that leads to strange obsessive posting about the succubi doing the vocies like K-pop fandom.
It is possible for someone to be a fan of a vtuber without fawning over 3D? so maybe it oculd be simply moderated. I don't watch any of them but if I wanted to get into the fandom I sure as hell would not want to do it by looking at reddit threads or shitchan threads.
Meanwhile in the actual thread that was locked there was no female worship and it appears to be half people talking about the subject and half people complaining about the thread in the thread.>>>/jp/37871
>>60678>It is possible for someone to be a fan of a vtuber without fawning over 3D?
a vtuber is 3D using an avatar so by worshipping them it is fawning over 3D>>60680>there was no female worship>>>/jp/37880>"The only ever donation I made was to a vtuber after incredible gameplay because I was really entertained"
Yeah, "incredible gameplay", totally not because it's a girl lol, if you want incredible gameplay there is plenty of it and it doesn't have an anime girl plastered on it with some e-whore doing a voice-over
You are being unreasonable and irrational.
Someone saying they like the character isn't equivalent to someone saying they are fawning the person behind the character.
It it was then the two cute anime character threads should be banned by your logic.
Also most v-tubers actually do use 2d avatars most of the time.
>>60682>Someone saying they like the character isn't equivalent to someone saying they are fawning the person behind the character.
there is no "character", it is a female behind an avatar, the one reason people like I quoted donate to these "characters" is because they are female and it makes their peepee tingle when their favorite anime larper succubus says their name>It it was then the two cute anime character threads should be banned by your logic.
an anime character is not a whore behind an avatar looking for donations from lonely men>Also most v-tubers actually do use 2d avatars most of the time.
don't know what you meant by this
>>60683>an anime character is not a whore behind an avatar looking for donations from lonely men
Instead they sell shit, be it merch, the anime it's self, audios, autographs and the like at conventions, etc.
Different monetization model but it's the same shit dude.
It's still whores getting money from lonely weebs.
There is no real difference in that regard.
>>60684>Instead they sell shit
'they' being the studio/production company>Different monetization model but it's the same shit
The point is posting about the whore monetization model and your favorite e-whore isn't wizardly>It's still whores getting money from lonely weebs.
voice actors are not whores, they have a real job that pays them a wage and they follow a script/story to play a character. The vtuber crap is literally just some random succubus doing things tons of random succubi do and make money off of except she is using a 2d avatar to trick weebs into thinking it's not the same thing as the other random succubi>There is no real difference in that regard.
it is completely different if you stop ignoring blatant differences between a voice actor and an e-whore
I made the donation because it was incredible gameplay I had never donated once to streamers or even watched them. It was some JP Vtuber on apex legends who played really well.
Why does it have to be a donation because it was a succubus? not everyone is some silly crab you know.>>60683>there is no "character"
There is character and the streamer maintains the character with fun little memes about being a shark from atlantis or whatever.>an anime character is not a whore behind an avatar looking for donations from lonely men
WHy do you just assume so much? why do you just assume that it is only lonely men donating. wouldn't lonely men rather donate to 3DPD instead of an anime succubus character?>>60685
Ok so you attack Vtubers as if they do not have skills worth anything but this is not true at all.
sounds more like you have a problem with being insecure and projecting it all over everyone else who enjoys the vtuber fandom
The cope in this post is unreal.>'they' being the studio/production company
So Hololive is using them as mascots, they are paid a wage and the money they earn goes to the company.>The point is posting about the whore monetization model and your favorite e-whore isn't wizardly
This point is made in bad faith and doesn't actually attack any real point.>voice actors are not whores, they have a real job that pays them a wage and they follow a script/story to play a character. The vtuber crap is literally just some random succubus doing things tons of random succubi do and make money off of except she is using a 2d avatar to trick weebs into thinking it's not the same thing as the other random succubi
As said above, the vtubers part of a larger corp would be paid either salary or based on hours worked, idential too VA's. Futhermore, a VA would be paid a bonus to attend cons and the like, which would make them the bigger 3dpd.>it is completely different if you stop ignoring blatant differences between a voice actor and an e-whore
They are the same.
vtubers try not reveal their identity also.
vtuber shit is cancer thank you mods.
If that is true they don't do a very good job of it.
you cant handle fans discussing their hobby interest in a single thread?
>>60687>Hololive is using them as mascots
don’t know what that is and don’t care, whatever they are selling is a 3d female behind an avatar no different than a 3d female behind an avatar in a videogame
No different from a voice actor, or music artist, or really anything produced in any way that could have human females involved.
After all, someone somewhere could posibly simp for the human female rather then, you know, enjoy the end product without giving a shit about the person behind the production like a normal person. And because that possibility exist, even if no one is actually demonstrating that behavor, then all media must be banned.
At least if we follow your logic to it's conclusion.
Took a while for you to make this thread. Lmao
than*, sorry, I didn't realize I was speaking to an illiterate person, your opinion is invalidated
You can say that traditional 2d/anime media is a group of people collaborating to make a product. Beyond their mental and physical contributions, who they are as people, doesn't really matter. Vtubers on the other hand, are people first. They make inputs (body motions, voice) and through AI and some math shit map these inputs to '2d' (moving an anime body, squeaky japanese modulated voice).
The process of these transformations is basic, it doesn't need any hired specialists, no man-hours, it works like a mechanism, like a clock. I don't understand how you can say that vtubing is 2d, you would also have to say that cosplay turns people into the characters, or that wearing a fursuit makes someone into an anthro.
There's probably a good answer to this question in Simulacra and Simulations
but fawning over the character is fine as it is 2D. It depends on your perspective.
theres plenty of other places where you can simp on the internet. dozens and dozens of vtuber threads that already currently exist elsewhere yet you feel the need to propagate your cuckery here? no thanks.
it isn't a character, it is a 3D female using an avatar
Well now we know who 3aef7 is, that their opinion is totally insincere, and that they are just arguing for arguments sake yet again. And why they are so absurdly irrational and illogical.
Oh look, mutt reveals himself
So the size of the production is the thing that maters?
The amount of effort put into the method of animation?
So would something written by a single person be worthy of a ban.
The reading thread deleted since the " process of these transformations is basic" as writing a book doesn't require a full production team?
Liking harry potter is simping for j k rowling by default?
And enjoying/discussing music?
They aren't even 2d, there is little to no "transformation". Should we just assume that any discussion of music is automatically simping for the people who produced it, even when none of the discussion is sexual in nature?
Should Music threads be deleted because someone could potentially simp for the artist? Even if such behavor wasn't observed in the thread?
Leave them dogs alone Alaskan.
You misunderstand, and perhaps I am at fault here. I wanted to use the word 'mapping' in a mathematical sense it means taking things from one group and associating them with things from another group.
The vtuber maps her face onto an anime girl's face, the vtuber's voice is mapped to an anime succubus's voice.
This is the kind of 'transformation' I was talking about in the paragraph. I think at the heart of the matter is a rather complicated question, one that will become increasingly more relevant as society changes. People who are transgender also use exterior means to change who they are and who they look like, except their changes are more permanent, they're not on only during the 9-5 vtube work day.
>>60691>watching people play video games is a hobby
Not even regular vtuber fans are this retarded.
looks like the mod is deleting asmr and audio role plays content on sight as well.
Told you all this was a slippery slope. It is only a matter of time until the mod arbitrarily bans whatever it is you like.
hope she sees this bro
I will continue to believe that all the staff are male until actual evidences is presented otherwise.
I think it's ridiculous that this kind of stuff is getting banned. What's next, we can't discuss anime because the voice actors are voiced by real succubi? The fact is that an ANIME AVATAR is not 3D (understood to mean IRL) content
an anime avatar is not the same as an anime character, it's not ok to erp with that guy on discord just because he has an anime avatar dude
- played by real succubus
- playing a character
- real identity not at all present
- presented as an anime succubus
- played by a real succubus
- playing a character
- real identity not at all present
- presented as an anime succubus
there is literally no difference except that one is in a show and follows a script, and one streams on youtube and doesn't follow a script.
- succubus playing a character
- real identity not at all present
- presented as an anime succubus
- succubus using an avatar
- presented as an anime succubus
>there is literally no difference
>>60763>played by a real succubi.
no anime is (voice acted) the vtuber movements and expressions are all in time depictions of what the 3D whore is doing vs animated.>playing a character
yeah a shitty character. vtubers have shitty personalities and gimics that are even less interesting then the average actual anime character.>real identity not present at all
minus the fact when they break character or get doxed and you find out they are fat ugly old succubi and take shits and fart on stream.>presented as a anime succubi
a vtuber avatar is nothing even similar to a anime character which is written by a author and inside of a plot/ world that exist in a manga or actual anime. its all a shitty larp.
for the sake of argument, let's say you're both right - VTubers STILL do not break rule 7. They are NOT 3D nor is the content SOLELY (or at all) intended to "arouse, attract or fawn over". It does not break the rule by any stretch of any definition.
its a succubi ebegging and wanting attention. its no different from posting pokimane or some other female twitch thot. you are promoting simp behavior. if that was not the case then they would not stream with a cute anime succubus avatar. it is breaking rules.
it is an attentionwhore so it is 3d garbage
If I wanted 3D succubi so badly I would watch 3D succubi.
vtubers are 3D succubi so you should be banned.
>>60765> the vtuber movements and expressions are all in time depictions of what the 3D whore is doing vs animated.
Mo-cap is a method of animation. It is just easier (but gives worse results without a lot of post production) then digi-painting or hand drawing.
One more thing, last I checked anime voice actors put their name in each and every ep/production and proudly associate their real identities with the parts they play, even doing cons in meat space where they directly interact with the fans.
v-tubers for the most part don't do any of that, and usually the only reason their identity is found is because they are doxed or make a mistake.
So them as a real person is even more divorced from the character then a VA in anime.
because voice acting actually takes talent. instead of just playing minecraft or reaction vids. and you dont interract or donate to actual anime characters. stop playing dumb.
>>60772>and you dont interract or donate to actual anime characters
Instead you can interact and donate to the actual 3d voice actors both online and at conventions.
The rest of your post is just your ignorant opinion of a art form you don't understand.
funny enough there are tons of vtuber threads over there so it sounds like a place more for you.
I dont see what the problem is with having vtuber threads.. the peop;e whp "simp" as ou call it are not likely to be on here and would be banned anyway. f you are banning VTubers ban people who jerk off to 3D as well
some tard in the vtuber thread said they actually donated to one of these whores, so yes, they are here
at this point I would go so far as to say that you are a succubi vtuber yourself just trying to advertise your shit. its mindbogglingly questionable how defensive you are about it and why you feel the need to push it on us.
having one single thread on the entire site dedicated to a major internet phenomenon that many people enjoy is not "forcing" it on you, stop whining just because you don't like it. and yes, people defend their interests, especially when they are being banned from a site by mods despite it not breaking a single rule
im not watching your channel or donating to you whore. go prey on some on else.
theyre angry because you called their fav egirl a whore
Adding 83355 to the list of insincere bad faith shitposters.
It should be noted that the mod isn't just deleateing/banning v-tubers anymore.
They are giving the same treatment to asmr and audio role play content as well.
It is only a matter of time before radio plays and audio books become banned at this rate.
you know full well that most that content is sexualized and peddled by thots who are just licking and giving their microphones blowjobs. thats why you dont listen to men who do asmr again clearly rule breaking fake wiz.
ive had my threads deleted and have been banned for it. and I dont cry about it.
And? they mentioned tey enjoyed the gameplay a lot and it was their ownly donation ever.
It could be really sweet to have some vtuber threads here and motivate wizards to have more interests. The only reason you hate on vtubers like Gura so much is because you people are so crabby you cannot handle enjoying anything made by a succubus most likely. The character is what is cool and fun no one care about the 3DPD and if they did they would not belong here. You people project so much omg.. again and again.. you cannot even imagine anyone enjoying cute anime succubus playing game because you are so weirdo creep like towards succubi that you imagine it just has to be sexual like shut up
>>60788>they mentioned tey enjoyed the gameplay
right>It could be really sweet to have some vtuber threads here and motivate wizards to have more interests
yes wizards need a virtual gf to make them do stuff>The only reason you hate on vtubers like Gura so much is because you people are so crabby you cannot handle enjoying anything made by a succubus
the people that watch vtubers are crabs, therefore its not fit for the site>The character is what is cool and fun no one care about the 3DPD
wrong>you cannot even imagine anyone enjoying cute anime succubus playing game because you are so weirdo creep like towards succubi
If someone wanted a virtual gf they would just e date some succubus and not watch a VTuber. Why do you have to be so negative and narrow minded? it is so not fair to make these claims about people who enjoy VTer content just "simping" for the succubus behind the character.. what about just having fun watching it.
Arguing in bad faith is kind of the default for the Alaskan.
Odds are he doesn't even care about the topic nor believe anything he is saying and just wants to get a rise out of people.
>>60802>Odds are he doesn't even care about the topic
odds are he isn't even posting on this topic, but there's your all-mighty "deduction" again
You or someone else has said this same thing whenever someone disagrees with the OP on threads a few times.
So what has come from this thread? will we be allowed to discuss cute anime youtubers or not?
Not true at all, a V-tuber is simply an e-gf for weebs, it's the exact same relationships just hiding behind some fake anime avatar, I wish wizchan would be consistent and stop unfairly pandering to weebs, who aren't very wizardly at all, just ban all posting/discussion of succubi full stop, stop allowing worship of 2d succubi in full view of the community, while banning someone for merely mentioning being attracted to 3d succubi, this hypocrisy shows that the concept of wizardry isn't being taken seriously by this community.
more like it is your fault for not seeing that 2D and 3D are different. We cant all be homosexuals like yourself most likely and do like anime succubi and will defend this as being totally fine because it very much is.
Some of us do actually worship 2D succubi in a literal sense and that is not against the rules. what do you have against cute adorable kawaii anime succubi?
>zero mod replies ITT
why is this allowed? Mod, defend your actions and quit sockpuppeting as a normal user.
I think its pretty clear that most users on this site agree with mods that vtuber fags should be banned. the handful of obsessive simps who defend it need to pack up their things and fuck off.
>>60815>most users>two guys intentionally arguing in bad faith>might just be one guy with a computer and cellphone or two computers since their writing style is so similar
Do you think the user base of this site is that
small that two posters are in anyway representative of the majority opinion?
I don't think that's clear at all. In fact it seems that the mod in question is sockpuppeting heavily in this thread to try and make his abuse of power seem justified. If this is considered 3D then half of /jp/ should be deleted, as well as the fap thread to be consistent.
I'm still convinced the subject is more than tangentially 3D. I don't mind people posting drawings of the character but I would rather not have discussions about the personality/person behind the character and what they do. Ultimately, if you removed the character from the videos it would just be a regular, albeit possibly 'quirky', female playing games for a male audience for reasons that I think are pretty obvious to most people. The consensus seems about 50/50 and I agree with one side.
I thought this vtuber garbage was only popular with kids anyway.
>>60821>but I would rather not have discussions about the personality/person behind the character and what they do.
Which no one did and isn't even against the rules if they did.
You are just enforcing your personal preferences without rime or reason in regard to the rules.
Making bad faith arguments based on assumptions and what could be on someone's mind, and doing so without understanding the subject.
To keep on with this aligation, nowhere in the thread that was locked on /jp/ or any of the post deleted on /b/ was there any discusion about the human who plays the character.
Not only that but, despite locking and deleting, and issuing warnings for rule 7, in no way shape or form did any of the content or discussion meet any of the criteria for rule 7. Even if you (nonsencally) classified the charicters as 3d human beings, the post still wouldn't in any way shape or form violate rule 7 ether as written or in spirit.
What makes even less sense is the deletion and unofficial banning of asmr videos, audio dramas, and audio role plays that are again in no way sexual. Post that had no responses, no text, and often just had a generic anime succubus as the thumbnaill.
This is even more arbitrary, nonsensical, and censorious with no rules or even common sentiment on the site against it.
>Ultimately, if you removed the character from the videos it would just be a regular, albeit possibly 'quirky', female playing games for a male audience
So you are telling me that if you removed the character that a performer is playing as, they are just a normal person.
Did you know that also applies to any other form of performance and character acting?
Or do you honestly really actually think that the meatbag behind the digital puppet isn't playing a character?
The voice, the mannerisms, most of the personality, just about everything about the characters isn't real. It is a performance, a act. While the details are ab hoc and improvisational for each show, the characters are preworked out constructed fictions. Much like a traditional improvised puppet act. You have a predefined character and the performer reacts and improvises based on the situations of the day and feedback from the crowd.
Only in this case the puppet is digital, the town square replaced with the internet, the crowd replace with chat, and the situation of the day something dynamic like messing around in a game.
But the whole thing is a performance. The puppet's character isn't how the performer is in their day to day life.
To use another rather famous streamer who uses a character, there is a streamer who calls himself Doctor Disrespect.
Doc Dis is a performance and the person who plays Doc Dis isn't actually in any way like the character he preforms as while streaming.
And he streams as a 3d meat bag, only he puts on a fake mustache and intentionally bad wig.
Would you declare that any discussion or postings of any video containing him regardless of context is a violation of rule 7?
Despite the lack of sexualized content, comments, or anything else?
So what is the actual issue here?
Is it streaming in general as a format that is the problem.
That the most popular v-tubers tend to be female?
Or is it just assumptions and projections that prejudices the snap decision to ignore the rules ban/censor something which in context broke no rules.
Lets use a example that removes even more character.
What about musical performers who character wise are just a exaggerated form of themselves when preforming. If you applied the same context of how the thread went and how the videos that were deleted were presented, would the fact that the music performer being a 3d meat bag playing themselves be grounds for the same actions?
After all they are 3d females openly, not "hiding" behind a character.
So should/would all discussion or posting such performers be bannable to you since there could
be someone who could
have a perient interest in the performer. One never expressed or even implied, but a interest that is possible to assume is there.
Has never mattered before and I can guarantee would matter when it isn't convenient to you in the future.
Also 50/50 what?
Also 50/50 is the very opposite of the meaning of the word consensus. It is contentious, not a consensus, and you chose a side arbitrarily based not on the rules but on incorrect assumptions and projections.
You've made a substantial portion of the posts on the other side of the argument, why are you so driven?
>>60836>rime or reason
dojo mutt compensating for his micropeen
Great points but I doubt the mod will respond to them. The wizchan moderation seem to have this idea that engaging in discourse with the userbase is beneath them.
>>60837>why are you so driven?
Justice, integrity, and fairness are things I value.
When people with authority disregard those values it bothers me.
Especially in a place I use damn near every day.
DISREGARD FEMALES, ACQUIRE MAGIC
Vtubers are real females. Everything they say is being said by them. Not written by a script, not coordinated by a bunch of suits in some Tokyo office, not some dude pretending to be a female, but an actual wom*n being itself. When you talk to a vtuber, you are talking to a fmale. When you idolize a vtuber, you are idolizing a f**le. When you say in a thread "haha vtuber has done this with her feet, so funny" yu are saying "haha this female did this with her feet, so erotic". You are not disregarding them females, you are oogling them. You suck for doing this, you are no different than those retards from Reddit who joined fan clubs for the actress who played Hermione Granger, or those nonces who meme on dying Crimeans with pictures of that female Russian defense minister. You have been psyopped to obsess over a female, and now you are trying to defend her honor as well as your boner on the one site where obsessing over females is verboten, forbidden and not allowed.
>But, but, she's not like the other succubi
yeah because this one is a literal succubi, and you are her incubi. Even sad crabs laugh at you. LMAO
Good points, I would really like to see the mods respond to this.
The mods seem to worry that allowing Vtuber discussion will allow crabs to express themselves freely and I say if that happens just ban them. The mods obviously do not care about keeping crabs from posting here because the sex wanters will do everything but mention they want sex and get away with it. I do not even watch Vtubers but when I did I never thought of it like watching some 3D succubus it was just watch a fun character, an anime succubus.>>60841>Even sad crabs laugh at you.
Obviously speaking for yourself >You have been psyopped to obsess over a female,
Is it so radical and controversial to consider that not everyone who sees a succubus is obsessing over them sexually?
Should we ban all fictional characters which are voiced or written by females then?
vtubers use a face scan of the real 3D succubi and motion capture for movement and are not fictional. these are succubi (pretending) to be anime succubi. how about instead you post male vtubers? but you wont talk or discuss about vtuber men since your a simp right?
>>60859>vtubers use a face scan of the real 3D succubi>and are not fictional
That is just plain incorrect. Like comically incorrect to the point that it shows you have no clue what you are even talking about. You are just making shit up and hurling baseless insults.
>>60860>you are wrong just becuase I say so.
sure. how about you answer my question about why you are not interested in male vtubers then?
Making assumptions again.
I watch It'sAGundam nearly every time he puts out a new video.
But his content is seldom on topic to this site so there is no reason to post that stuff here.
simps like you are worthless to even talk to. I am done here and voiced my opinion. I think mods should ban vutber simps and hope they do. if not then the quality of this site is just lowered more so but thats not my problem.
Hit me with your best femboy vtubers.
>>60865>Post shit that the mod doesn't like and will delete and ban for regards or rules or context
Read the room dude. Anything that can even be mistaken for being related to vtubers is getting nuked from orbit.
not knowing the mods allow Vtuber homosexual VR faggot play but ban anime succubus vtubers just singing.
no one died in the annexation of crimea
Bet you believe western media too? The side with the weaker propaganda complex must by necessity stray closer to the truth
2d content is 2d content regardless of secondary arguments about the business model, marketing or differences of production when the content is still 2d.
Mod is corrupt, he doesn't care. It's why the site is dying. Soon only the modcliquers will be left.
This makes sense but I feel like vtubers cross a line with how cringey it is. They are like 2.5-D
have you watched them? I have not watched many but the ones I watched from hololive put in effort to be a character and are actually good at the games they play.
Explain why a song sung my a vtuber gets removed but not songs sung by actual succubus?
They are high production value and high effort but they are also crab bait
everything involving a female in some step of the production could be called crab bait and even if they are crab bait like you claim it would only lead to crabs being banned.
Crabs prefer twitch thots not anime succubi jerk
>>60960>crabs prefer twitch thots not anime succubi.
You disagree? please enlighten me
Just go look at wherever there are accounts and see what they use for their profile pictures.
No. You made the claim you provide the evidence.
the only people who cry about vtubers being here are those really insecure crabs who secretly want sex anyway.
watching vtuber streamers is no different than watching 3d streamers, the anime avatar just provides the right amount of delusion for the weeb to delude themselves into thinking it is not the same thing
same delusion as kpop fans a while ago "I like it for the music!", yeah right
Wait, so you are saying that you think that totally not sexual streaming should be/is under rule 7?
Also K-pop isn't banned.
That one guy who was spamming k-pop dance videos while having a history of fawning/lusting over them is banned from posting similar material.
(don't know any k-pop bands or whatever so take a Korean black metal band that I know instead as demonstration of it not being banned, I really don't know dick about other countries pop scenes)
But yeah, streaming or talking about streamers isn't banned and I don't know why you think it is.
So arguing that they are just streamers doesn't mean they are the equivalent of 3d porn.
it is 3d females behind an avatar and you are fawning at them, rule 7
>>60976>it is 3d females behind an avatar and you are fawning at them, rule 7
So having a waifu and saying how much you love her should get you banned?
If fawning over a fictional character is ban-worthy then yes, anyone who talks about having a waifu should be banned.
vtuber is as much of a fictional character as I am when I put a halloween mask on
>>60976>you are fawning at them,
This is totally false.
No one fawned over anything. Ether in the thread discussed or in this thread.
I 100% did not fawn over them. Just made the argument that they shouldn't be banned based on the rules.
Making such a argument is not in any way shape or form a violation of rule 7.
There is nothing wrong with having a waifu and it has nothing to do with fawning over females. Having a waifu is much more like having a deity I worship in my case because I pray to her. You are homosexual.
As the other posters have said there was no fawning over these Vtubers we onoy talked about the fandom and shared fun songs.
>>60982>No one fawned over anything
Oh right I forgot they just watch succubi playing because they like the level of gameplay and skill that you can’t see anywhere else
maybe not you specifically but there are simps who do fawn over vtubers. just look into the community at all and you would know this is true. there are tons of porn based on the characters and the millions of dollars of donations from betas wanting attention etc. armpit compilations or audio tapes of them farting and shitting, people also interested in the female behind the character and fantasizing it goes on and on. by having the vtuber garbage here it attracts the toxic crab audience even if you are not a part of that. (which you are but keep lying and denying)
There are simps who fawn over characters from Amphibia therefore posting or discussing it should be banned on wizchan.
vtubers are 3D cartoons and anime are 2D how do you not get the difference?
Wow a nobody from twitter agrees with you. Congratulations.
and a nobody from wizchan disagrees with me. your point?
also saying they are a nobody is meaningless since they are a fan of vtubers with over 18k followers saying that.
This doesn't even merit a response. A "fan of vtubers" is not the arbiter of reality. I would think that wizchan users would be mature enough to not resort to such fallacious non-arguments.
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>>60988>there is someone somewhere who fawns over a thing I don't like therefor it should be banned here despite no one here fawning over it
irrational>>60991>>60995>implying cherry-picked twatter is ever relevant to anything