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General Question: does just reading 4chan for longer than 10-15 minutes make anyone feel awful and almost as if placed into a trance state? I can browse other sites for long periods of time without any ill effects, but if I stay too long on 4chan I begin to feel decidedly sick. Why does this happen?


Yes. It's a mixture of deep and not-so deep psyop.


Boards OP is probably reading: R9K, Pol, /b/

Go to 4chan to discuss your hobbies. Depression, chimpouts, and porn are not hobbies.


Staying away from imageboards as much as possible has been a good decision for me. The constant schizo stuff is just not good for you, even if your brain has a good filter. It's the same like browsing Twitter or reddit all day, you're just hardly gonna read stuff that isn't mentally unhinged and your mind will suck it all up like a sponge. It's the same on here, there's just people who can't handle social isolation without diving into delusions at some point and there is no value in reading their schizo posts on things they don't even understand.


Yes, OP. This wiz has it right. Stop reading 4chan. In fact, I would argue against reading social media entirely. Even the most well-meaning 4channers are unhinged and irritable. There's a level of exhaustion they all feel from being unable to leave the site. Trying to discuss anything is navigating a minefield because one mistaken piece of vocabulary can set people off. It's not worth it.




Other social media sites are way more toxic.


4cha' is for normalfagd


I browse /v/ on 4chan and don't have this problem.


What gives me a headache is looking at the catalog and seeing provocative images with some engagement bait one-line question.


On fagbook you get to see geriatrics start drama over their neighbors trash bins not being APPROXIMATELY 6 inches FROM THE FUCKING CURB and other such karen nonsense


4chan is filled with smug retarded normalfags that are obsessed with females


I can't even create an account on Facebook because they want me to send in my ID and driver's license



you must have hurt their butts good, mm!! good work proud of you lol


4chan is edge lord central, everyone tries to up each other with insults or provoking content, most users are young 15-25yr and because of its reputation they seem to think they have an image to up hold to. Another theory is psyops on well frequented boards, because the site has more free speech and expression orientation agencies and shills try to control the narrative and sway community opinion. For instance, they want more division on politics instead of unity and keeping anons in the throws of mental illness and circumstance such as crabdom and NEETdom/Hikkis as well as an unhealthy view on people, culture and choices. I'll also add, there isn't much for discussion there intellectually or otherwise, repetitive talking points and basic rebuttals, not so much in depth proper discourse. Finally, I visit frequently enough but I hardly go to /b/ anymore, fuck that board I won't participate in /gif/ either, and /r9k/ is dead. Some other boards are interesting and sometimes fun but 4chan is in decline and has been for years, I know other forums have fuck all traffic so going there for chatting seems too tedious but it is what it is man you reap what you sow


>they want more division on politics instead of unity and keeping anons in the throws of mental illness and circumstance such as crabdom and NEETdom/Hikkis
wrong and even if it were true, do you know where you are?


all these outsiders here telling other what to think. 4chan ,like I said, is for normalfags.


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Yes I know this is a site for mental illness doesn't change the fact that the glowniggers want to keep you trapped in your own head. You could argue they target crabs and losers but the more men who are like this they can spin the narrative, for example, shooters or more moderation on hate/free speech, they took down crabs on reddit. 4chan is basically a porn exposure site not including blue boards of course and the mental illness of users tend to frequent red boards where it is pushed a lot


manages to be a better site than this one


I try to search for lulz but often the text is just trash comments. There are more shills than trolls these days.


I'm not denying that glowniggers incite things but often they also just look for the lowest common denominator which is the schizos with no grasp of reality and wait until they do some dumb shit. Remember that schizo LGBT dyke who shot up random Christians in Nashville because she got gassed up by her online fag community, the glowniggers most likely didn't even look into that because they don't mind if it's not crabs or neo nazis doing it.


Hmm no. /v/ is still The Place with people and culture most like me. R9k used to Be cool so I browse it Out of nostalgia and Habit. I check /Pol/ once a Day because its fun and I dont take 4chan too seriously like an idiot.


>getting filtered by 4chan


I go to /k/ to look at webms of the ukraine war sometimes but other than that I have pretty much stopped using it because it's so shit and worthless and everyone there is mentally ill in unpleasant ways.


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I hate how so many threads are provocative VERY thinly veiled rage bait posts with wording that pisses me off.

You can tell right away from the post what kind of reaction the OP is expecting.

I thought the hobby boards would be better off but my threads trying to get a serious discussion going got no replies after 5 bumps. Instead it's all just whining about zoomers, succubi, non-white people, leftists and trans and coomer content.

So many people there just love circlejerking and are not interested in different opinions or learning something new. It's just a bunch of dopamine addicts trying to get some short satisfaction from hearing what they want to hear or "BTFO" someone by posting a grotesque Wojack.


True. No better than ShitTok.


True, but where do I ask questions on the internet now? I feel like there's nothing left now. I have a better chance of getting a reply to my questions if I email a professor than if I post on a social media site.


The addiction aspect to the site is certainly tough. Meandering propaganda mazes mostly define its content, but sometimes you will come upon worthwhile information not elsewhere findable, and then the aimless searching cycle begins again.


I've ceased using the near entirety of 4chan permanently last week after somebody made a meme of me from one of my posts and some charcteristics I had talked about previously. After that I realised I had become too notorious on the board even though it was only five or six people who recognised me from my typing style. That was too much for me however and I had decided that enough was enough and that it was time to permanently stop visiting the board. I don't enjoy having my existance recognised, I'm a recluse who can only find sanctuary in obscurity. Call it an autistic overreaction but I don't care. After ten years of that place basically being my homepage of the internet I've finally grown too old for it, I felt like the only elder person in a special needs class full of retarded and delinquent children. Time to move on but I don't know where to.


there is an invisible element somehow embedded into the html code that underlies 4chan and 4channel (all boards) that induces progressive psychosis. even the users themselves openly say culty things like "you can never leave" and their brain-enslaved fellows may be seen seconding their addiction with similar statements. i have gone from spending time searching through many different websites at length, and then, with a complete diversion of my attention, ventured onto 4chan, and reliably within 15 minutes, I feel worse with a mind freshly led into daze. there are high-level psychological operations being carried out over there, and such activity is not limited to the perceptible shifting outer layer of honeypots like pol, but is woven universally through the coded fabric of the boards themselves.


Boy you can talk a lot of trash. You should be a writer.


It's called schizoposting


I agree with you wizzie. I don't think it's a mystical thing but various groups are purifying and testing methods of attention grabbing or aggravating content on 4chan. The whole site is set up to annoy you but at the same time keep you interested.


bro it's just the fast pace of the site together with the ability to post anonymously so you don't need to worry about a reputation

I keep coming back despite being disappointed every time because I can comment on a bunch of threads and then get dopamine anticipating the reply and meanwhile I can refresh the catalog and see several new threads pop up.

But for this reason the site is brainrot. It's a bunch of dopamine addicts trying to get dopamine with the least effort possible by making provocative shitposts with low effort but high engagement.


>I've finally grown too old for it, I felt like the only elder person in a special needs class full of retarded and delinquent children. Time to move on but I don't know where to.

I just wanted to say that I relate to this so well. I've felt this way for years but never figured out how to clearly describe it.
For me it felt so sudden. It was like, with no warning, one day I was this 30 year old loser surrounded by 17 year old losers who were pretending to be 25 year old losers. Suddenly I was so out of place, there was nobody like me there anymore.
As if everyone else like me got some secret memo that it was time to go home, but for whatever reason, I never got the memo, so I just kept showing up to the retard-club, not realizing I was no longer welcome there.


Just wanted to say that I know the feeling as well but towards the internet in general. 'Where to' is an important question, I struggle with it daily. Everyday I sit in front of the computer with that naive feeling I'll open wizchan and youtube and there will something interesting in there. Of course there isn't and at that moment I begin to waste away, browsing mindlessly, hoping I'll come across something to stave off boredom by complete accident.

Where to indeed. I have no idea.



I havent gone to 4chan in 7+ years but I feel the same with wizchan. I just come out of habit

it is a problem. sometimes i enjoy just watching twitch streams or using twitch to find games to play.


i think at some point your need to start creating or doing some hobby instead of consuming.


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Not him but that's the point I am at.

I used to do photography which is low effort art but I enjoyed the process a lot and posting my photos and talking about them was way more satisfying than anything else.

The big issue I'm having though is that something is fucked up with my reward system where I need instant gratification to do something and creating stuff is a very long process with very delayed reward ESPECIALLY the journey to developing the skills first.


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I also need to vent about something that bothers me with 4chan:

I think being a loner made me not just blindly follow the mainstream and question everything. So when someone voices an opinion that goes against the norm my first instinct is to hear that person out. But all intrigue is lost once I see how the posters argument. It quickly becomes clear that instead of trying to educate others they just get pleasure from imagining they are enlightened in a sea of sheep. They dump their infographics and memes without explanation and ignore tough questions and just call other people names. It's just disillusioning to be excited to broaden my horizon only to read a bunch of shitposts.


that is sadly true, every thread on the big boards is just bating(racebait and porn are widespread on blue boards too) and fishing for (you)'s.
I admit it can be fun to do while getting drunk on a Friday night but only on the fast boards that are already shit and can't be fixed.
Smaller hobby boards are alright because threads are focused on topics unlike other boards like /v/ or /pol/


I never really used it. I used infinity chan for a couple neet and hikki boards. 4chan was only ever good for gore when Best Gore went offline. They just post the same webms, not worth it. Everything else is just boring.


What do I do though? I've got a fucked up RSI. I used to draw and code a lot but now all I do is read, and it's boring.


I love your writing style. Cute schizo.


People like yourself who always use terms like dopamine addicts, are dehumanizing as hell. Please stop


Still better than this site.


>one day I was this 30 year old loser surrounded by 17 year old losers who were pretending to be 25 year old losers

I genuinely believe the blue boards on 4chan aren't attracting new users and the site is ageing. In retrospect the hysterical concern over newfags and underage was due to the fact that we were mostly underage. Now nobody really gives a shit if a zoomer wanders in.

Apparently on /o/ and some of the more hobby orientated boards, you have people bragging about having a wife and kids. Because that's what imageboard niggers do, they arrogantly brag about things. They arrogantly brag about being NEETs at the age of 19 when it's actually fun being one. They arrogantly brag about being $120,000 full stack engineers at the age of 25-30 when that becomes impressive. And then they brag about having a wife and kids at 35-40 when that's the most important thing for most men.


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IT'S NORMALITY. You can feel its eroding aura sinking deeper and deeper into thy soul.

Too much porn lets you know they want you to coom your brain away


yeah /pol/ is absolutely retarded, it's probably on par with reddit. what can I say, the need to discuss politics is a trait of the lowliest scum


Biochemical processes are part of being human. We aren't some magical beings. The way people post on 4chan is dehumanizing if anything because you are not trying to have a normal conversation.


Why are you here?


I think we could all benefit from periodic reminders of how far things have fallen.


>Is explicitly named and referenced in over a hundred major movies and TV shows by now.

>Has had hundreds of major 'news investigation' style reports done on it.
>Has had multiple documentaries made about it ("tfwnogf", "feels good man" and others).
>Is listed on most of the major porn site ranking lists.
>Is known and named by the majority of boomers, who know about it due to mainstream reporting on crabs, pizzagate, Qanon, etc.
>Is completely dominated by Youtubebuxers and other profiteering content miners who now essentially define what most people think about the site.
>Has had all its major memes appropriated by outsiders who use them to 'in group' themselves for street cred and profit ( https://youtu.be/Do7B74dyEVs ).
>Has been and continues to be the subject of academic studies all over the world, there are like actual academics who SPECIALISE in studying 4chan.
>Has been and continues to be actively monitored by multiple police and spy agencies and discussed at anti-terror summits, etc.
>Has had Passes for years which allow anyone with dodgy motives to be able to essentially spam for free, it's almost designed to encourage this. The Youtubebuxxer who used a language model to spam the board simply bought himself a pass to do so.
>Is inextricably tied up with the 'meme' cryptocurrencies and there are multiple companies that exist to 'shill memes' on 4chan to promote memecoins. This is all for selfish dishonest people to make money at the expense of others, using cultural references to ingratiate themselves and thus debasing that culture.

4chan culture is mined to death and we should probably stop referring to it altogether.


Where else can you go but /pol/ and sometimes a few other boards for uncensored discussion about important social topics, such as race issues? The succubus question? Reddit is censored to hell, twitter is not a discussion board, Faceberg is jewed, etc. An unfortunate fact of all the censorship/centralization of the internet is if you want actual truth you need to sift through the 95% shit to find a tiny nugget of wisdom on such a place.

That's why shitholes like /pol/ are addicting: the reward of filtering through constant retarded garbage to find an original perspective on taboo topics that would be censored everywhere else


>important social topics, such as race issues


>Reddit is censored to hell, twitter is not a discussion board, Faceberg is jewed, etc.

Race gets discussed all the time on all three sites, you can't exactly call for genocide but lots of discussion takes place on race. There are thousands of other sites and forums to discuss these things, also.

>the reward of filtering through constant retarded garbage to find an original perspective on taboo topics that would be censored everywhere else

I'm curious, can you give some examples of the gems of original perspective you've found? Give me an idea of what you find an original perspective that'd be banned everywhere else?


/pol/tard finds out his extreme right wing shit is reviled by anyone outside of his echochambers, how cute.
"how come i get censored for bringing up the jewish question on grandma's facebook page waaaaaaah!"


Fucking polbrats have the race thing so imprinted in their brains that they can't have a thought without making it about race, can't speak a sentence without the word "race" in it, and want the whole world to take oh so seriously the one subject their screen-fried brains are capable of processing.
Any one brings the subject of race, you know the disease.


You think 4chan isn't censored? The censorship is just soft censorship in the form of bots actively derailing discussion, bait threads, hostile shitposters etc. You can't discuss anything on 4chan.

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