No.296278
Hell yeah, time for another shitty thread full of delusions!
No.296280
you archive the threads?
No.296284
Abolish marriage and prostitution (they are the same thing anyway) and collectivize wo-men and children as sexual playthings of the community and then redistribute them to males who request them. This way there will be no more inzels going on shooting sprees and violence in general will be lessened.
>AUSTRALIA ANNOUNCES MANDATORY 100 SOCIAL CREDIT POINT MINIMUM FOR INTERNET USE
Is this China or Australia?
No.296285
>>296284How much are they paying you, you fucking kike?
No.296287
>>296284yeah i can imagine if your mom was getting whored out to ghetto niggers there'd be fewer mass shootings. you go first bro
No.296288
>>296284crab begs the state for a smidgen of pussy lmfao
No.296298
>>296285I'm offended. I'm doing it for free. Everything for the right cause.
>>296287I wouldn't have any problem with my mom or sis getting racially sensitive, if you know what I mean. My sister once dated a black guy and our parents actually threw a party to celebrate it, him being the first minority bf of their daughter and all. My mom cried because she was so proud of my sister. Not everyone is a stuck-up bigot who judges people based on their skin color or class.
Also, implying if Elliot Rodger had a gf he would have still been a spree killer…For some people this stuff is pretty important. We volcels don't bother with this stuff but that doesn't mean we should just ignore the inzel problem.
>>296288Not a crab myself, but why not? If someone desires a wife or gf he should have easy access to them to fulfill his natural urges.
No.296301
>>296298>My sister once dated a black guy and our parents actually threw a party to celebrate it, him being the first minority bf of their daughter and all. My mom cried because she was so proud of my sister.Americans
No.296303
>>296298Kill yourself IMO
No.296304
>>296300I am stocked up on tendies
No.296310
this thread is off to a great start
No.296312
my political world view is nationalist scientologist, I think the Sea Org should run the world government
No.296313
>>296312esoteric David Miscavige worship
No.296315
Have you guys been following developments in Brazil around their contested election? Large numbers have been protesting for days and Bolsonaro doesn't seem to have conceded. His supporters just shot up a cop shop
QRD from 4chains:
>brazilian electronic urn has been cracked and proved that it can be frauded
>Bolsonaro's party demanded cancellation of election results, instead they got threatened with arrest and pecuniary penalties
>Bolsonarists have been arrested nonstop for months on end, the entire election even had a media outlet censored to favour the lulists
>bolsonarists have been arrested for more than a year over a fake news inquiry, which includes targets such as politicians, youtubers and bloggers
>meanwhile president-elect Lula's economy is nonsense, he'll make his former communist education minister the economy minister for no reason, his party is trying to stop public companies from paying dividends (crime), and the market is in a free fall
>brazilians have been blocking roads and begging the military to perform a coup in Bolsonaro's name for years
>meanwhile Bolsonaro is eerily silent, just like most major brazilian politicians
>audios are leaking left and right by the low rank in file that something is brewing in Brazil
>US congress itself approved a motion September 7th to 'defend brazilian democracy' (defend the globalist Lula) at all costs
>bolsonarists have been going abroad trying to get support from US enemies
>meanwhile lulists are hindering the army from buying new tanks, trying to win over some generals by nomating them to public offices, Lula goes to the USA and meets with secretary of security before even meeting Biden (?) and members of the US secretary of security have been spotted in Brazil (?)
>meanwhile Brasilia is dead silent, with everyone hedging their chances, while millions gather every weekend to demand for a coup
>now another bolsonarist was arrested ilegally, so the people attacked the fed bureau
No.296316
>>296315All of what you're saying is the Americans are trying to overthrow another government in South America. Again.
No.296318
>>296316the Americans are backing Lula who is supposed to be the incoming president. I don't think the Americans are backing Bolsonaro although I could be wrong
I don't have a shoe in this game, just like the happening
No.296320
>>296319We can reasonably assume that what was exposed at twitter is just business as usual in all these tech companies. Every single view on Youtube is controlled.
No.296321
>>296318>the Americans are backing Lula who is supposed to be the incoming president.Given the track record of left-wing south american governments and the US, we can assume it's a front.
No.296323
>>296322>Exactly what are your sources?Nothing. I'm just basing it on the track record of the USA and South American governments.
>Biden congratulating Lula publiclyWhat they say publicly doesn't mean much. I mean, look at Gaddafi, dude was portrayed as a villain or an ally depending on how the winds were blowing.
No.296324
>>296323Okay so you don't know what you're talking about…
No.296327
>>296300Ill have to popeyesmaxx 6 piece tenders meal with my food stamps this week
No.296330
>>296315rightoids foaming at the mouth at their candidate losing an election and making up conspiracy theories
No.296333
>>296330It's more complicated than that. The supreme court of Brazil has apparently been overturning the Bolsonaro administration and his supporters throughout his presidency. The largest public demonstrations in Brazilian history happened on independence day when he asked for public support and implied he might stage a coup. There's a pretty good happening ratio going on in Brazil right now
No.296343
>>296327You must live in California
No.296411
>>296409it's really the far left. everything left of center is technically that… left, but it's resonably fine up to a certain point
No.296412
>>296411go to college; get indoctrinated with lefty talking points*
*unless you're smarter than the average normae
No.296413
>>296409Epic image, saved.
I hate normalfaggots so much. They will avoid doing perfectly moral things that society says are immoral (e.g. someone who would never say nigger), and yet do completely immoral things that society says are moral (e.g. someone who would punish their dog for getting into the garbage).
No.296421
>>296413You are inexpressibly dumb.
No.296422
>>296412everything near the center is fine to me. but out of the far left or right, the left makes no fucking sense to me. maybe i only have experience from imageboards with far right stuff, but every far left thing i read sounds insane and stupid to me
No.296430
>>296409This picture literally says leftists aren't normalfag though
No.296433
>>296430Yeah lol, the picture combined with the post has me so confused.
>Being ugly is normalfag>being mentally ill is normalfag>being a NEET is normalfag>being physically weak is normalfag>not having sex is normalfagI mean ?????????? lol
No.296435
>research says
>study finds
>survey
No.296441
>>296433>Being ugly is normalfag>being mentally ill is normalfag>being physically weak is normalfagThis is true. The current normal and average is a person who is unkempt, has a diagnosed mental ailment, and is unfit. Those who reject normalacy by contrast take care of their health, or at the very least, don't actively participate in self-destructive behaviour
No.296448
>>296433Normalfag is the neets version of screaming racist. It means absolutely nothing but you virtue signal your ingroup status by shouting you hate normalfags.
No.296450
>>296441Where do you get all this stupidity from? Most normals are in better shape than us, in any meaning of the word most likely except for intellectual things. As far as looks, physical fitness goes normals care a great deal more about these things than us because these are important when it comes to getting laid.
>>296409Arigato for proving what I always suspected, namely that the left is more wizardly than the right. "Right-winger wizards" is a bad joke. Why should we support people who hate us and would lock us away or kill us if given the chance? I mean seriously, look at the list of people who got sent to concentration camps and then tell me with a straight face that the right is compatible with being an outsider.
>>296422Define "far left".
>>296435Yeah, I never trust these things either.
No.296456
>Confidential data of about 112,000 taxpayers inadvertently published by the IRS over the summer was mistakenly republished in late November and remained online until early December, the IRS disclosed Thursday.
epic, they fuck up twice. do the exact same thing reposting the same exact data. what can we do in response lmao
i hate how data on everyone is treated like a joke. you shouldnt have access to peoples information if you are thos incompetent
No.296461
>>296448>>296449If you wageslave even though you don't have to and desire a family then you are a norm, there is no two ways about it. If you support any political ideology that would push people to socialize more, to breed or to be useful in any way then you are a norm to me.
No.296472
>>296461>to breed or to be useful in any way ask me how I know you use Reddit
No.296486
>>296472I'm curious how you know I use reddit, even though I don't. Also, do you seriously try to sell breeding propaganda and wageslave propaganda here? Of all places…
No.296542
>>296486>I'm curious how you know I use RedditI know you use Reddit because you're an anti-natalist.
>wageslave propagandaTelling, how you thing that "being useful" is synonymous with being a wageslave. I support the right of every anon to be a NEET, and leech off of the system that betrays good people.
No.296559
>>296542>because you're an anti-natalistI'm not.
>"being useful" is synonymous with being a wageslaveIt kind of is. How do you think we NEETs contribute to society exactly?
No.296561
>>296559Richard Stallman is a NEET
No.296575
I wonder if gen x will be as toxic as boomers once the boomers finally die and relinquish control of the world.
Gen X and millennials rule the tech world, but boomers still run the stuff people actually need, like housing, food, and banking.
No.296576
>>296567You don't just earn him money but do something for the collective. I'm a NEET too and I think it is preferable to wageslavery but let's be honest. If you want to be useful then you go wageslave and don't live the NEET life.
There is nothing wrong with being a NEET and being useless. You are using mental gymanstics to justify why you can be useful while being a NEET too. Why can't you just free yourself from normalfag expectations like wanting to be useful??
No.296578
>>296559>>296576Wageslavery is actively bad for society. Perpetuating the state by paying taxes and transferring even more wealth from the poor to the ruling class is evil. If more people refused to work then the system would need to change. Working a job is like being threatened by terrorists and giving into their demands. Draining tax money from the state is the opposite.
No.296579
>>296578This is why people who avoid taxes like Trump and Buffet are so virtuous.
No.296580
>>296579>This is why people who avoid taxes like Trump Donald Trump paid out the ass in taxes every year of his life, even when he loses money. Being the president puts anyone there in a special tax-exempt bracket for all of his business ventures during his seat but nevertheless he's still obligated to pay.
>2015: $31.7M loss, $641,931 paid in taxes>2016: $32.4M loss, $750 paid in taxes>2017: $12.9M loss, $750 paid>2018: $24.3M gain, $999,456 paid>2019: $4.4M gain, $133,445 paid>2020: $4.8M loss, $0 paidPersonal wealth at the beginning of office:
>Trump- $4.5 billion>Obama’s - $3 million>Clinton's - $480,000And their wealth today:
>Trump- $3.2 billion>Obama's - $70 million >Clinton's - $120 millionEvery Democrat to take office in the past 30 years has left much richer, while republicans either break even or wind up with less assets. Trump was fighting the release of his tax information because the call for release was unfounded and unfair. If the left wants transparency they should look to why their own parties aren't making their tax info public, but instead they focus on evil drumpf despite all of his wealth being earned through ventures from before he was in the White House.
>are so virtuous.Trump has no virtues. Anyone with significant amounts of money who are avoiding taxes are doing so for personal gains, not for some Anarcho-hippie nonsense like you suggest.
No.296581
>>296578Nah fuck that as a neet i love hearing about wellfare queens/boomers or near retirement age fucks/ fake VA wellfare kings dying and leaving more of the budget for us neets
No.296582
>>296298I just realized that this was a post by the porn addicted leftist shill faggot who finally got banned now lol
No.296585
>>296581Sure but that's a completely different topic than arguing about being useful for the collective
No.296588
>>296582THIS is what you no-fappers are complaining about when you keep saying people are promoting porn and degeneracy and whatever? a fake ass poster like
>>296298 ????? are you fucking kidding me hahaha.
No.296598
>>296588Nigger just leave but I guess you're that same faggot or equally retarded
No.296625
QTDDTOT here: Can you guys recc me some good /pol/ books? Following topics would be good
>Economics
>Lifestyle/fitness
>Globohomo and or the global governance cabal
>Environmentalism, global warming being a hoax etc
nothing too edgy pls
No.296643
>>296625There are so many books about lifestyle and fitness and so very few of them have any good info. Just lift, don't skip leg day, and stay sober. Do NoFap as well. I don't eat swine or shellfish but come to your own conclusions about diet and fitness, nothing on this Earth is full of more charlatans than those topics
No.296652
>>296643good advice and there are a lot of grifters around indeed who can't be trusted, we already had a lot of grifter faggots coming up during the trump era but the covid protest times brought even more of them. there are legit and honest people out there as well but its always good to be suspicious of their actual motives.
No.296682
>>296625>good /pol/ booksdon't exist, you want to be fed conspiracy garbage.
No.296784
>The supposedly Richest man in the world forgot to bow to the Rothschilds GOY! THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FO MEZZIN WITH THE FREE MARKET GOY!! DON'T END UP LIKE T—P AW ELSE
https://twitter.com/FinanceLancelot/status/1607987486604787713?cxt=HHwWgoDQ5a-G3NAsAAAA No.296793
>>296578Why would I want the state to be abolished as a wizard, though? I don't have a problem with states, I have problems with certain kinds of states only. The state - in a good case - provides a NEET like me with free stuff like education, healthcare, buxes of all kinds and etc, not to mention protection from normals. In a world without states who would protect /feed someone like me? In order to be a leech there needs to be a state in the first place I can leech off of.
Also, I don't care about inequality and normals who have to wageslave. Normals would be bored without wageslavery anyway and they would cause even more trouble like partying all day or going around bothering people like me. They need to be occupied, like kids in school and kindergarten.
No.296848
>>296793The idea for conservatives and anti-state people is that charity or family would support you but not all wiz have supportive families and charity isn't reliable.
Conservatives begrudgingly compromised and accepted welfare programs, but they always want to shrink the amount you get (usually with zero research into how much the average person needs) or implement programs where you are forced to work, and they get normies to overseer you and strip your bux from you if you don't do what they say (come to our office once a week, spend an hour looking for jobs on our computers, apply for 25 jobs a month, if you get an offer you have to accept it, enrol in our useless 8 hour a week course where you do team exercises with the other unemployed and learn how to write a resume also we'll make you do it again next year also we've decided the course will go on indefinitely until you all get jobs so we can meet our KPIs)
Thankfully here in Australia we got rid of our last government who implemented this shit and they are raising the bux now, but the system described above is basically the same and can't be undone, especially since it got privatized. The only good job providers in my experience were the nonprofit ones which is the reason I have a job now and didn't kill myself or become a homeless vagrant, rent was starting to get too high.
But yeah these people think taxation is theft and don't want to know about how your gonna live, they just don't want it to be their problem. I'm just happy I don't live in America and I'm glad I pay so that if I get unhealthy I don't have to fork out my life savings cause I'm a NEET and don't have work healthcare or some shit
No.296851
>>296848So people who've never been forced to really interact with family or charity.
For the disadvantaged, family is more often a crutch than not. Mental problems don't just develop on their own. Parents who are able to provide a small loan of $10,000 for business are entirely different from those who cannot. Don't get me started on charity. The state is at least a faceless bureaucracy. Private charity from strangers maximizes the humiliation and punishment possible. The churches do the same thing.
Honest conservatives are self-serving and don't pretend to be otherwise, but honesty and conservatism don't exactly go together.
No.296853
>>296848>>296851I agree. The state does its job in a good case and doesn't care about who you are they help you if you need help. If we were left to our neighbors and the goodwill of other citizens who would tolerate us NEETing on their backs? We would be the first ones to be victims.
>hey you know Wiz down the road?>who?>that weird dude with glasses who dresses like a homeless guy>oh yeah, that autist, I hate people like that, they creep out my wife and daughter>Yeah, I'd bet he's a paydophile…supposedly nobody ever seen him with any wuman ever, can you believe that?>Better protect our children and succubi, let's beat the shit out of him>let's shoot him, no big deal, nobody likes him either way, he is also a lazy sonofabitch who doesn't contribute anythinYeah, I'd rather have a state with all its corruption, hypocrisy and bullshit. Still better than rednecks or niggers going around serving "justice" to people they dislike based on their looks. People shit on states a lot but in a healthy state (I'm not talking about authoritarian hellholes obviously) who would you rather live next to honestly? Policemen, prison guards, corrupt politicians or criminals who have two digit IQs and would rape you or rob you for fun? As much as people of authority can be dicks or hypocrites they at least have to keep up some appearances of caring about others and doing something for the community. They have a lot to lose if they fuck up, like policemen who abuse their power and get exposed for example. They lose their job and etc. The average man or criminal doesn't have anything to lose, he doesn't have anything that would restrict him against you.
Yeah, I'd take a nice citizen-friendly liberal welfare state over some anarchy where you have to be social and such in order to survive.
>b-but you could work on your farmWho cares? I just want to be left alone in my room watching chinese cartoons.
No.296854
>It's another episode of t. unemployed faggot trying to his inject his idpol worldview into an off-topic thread
No.296860
>>296854>unemployed using that word derogatorily, on wizchan of all places… wageslaves really are normalshits
No.296862
>>296860Despite everyone in the wageslave thread wishing they could NEET, one post on /lounge/ has made you believe the Wizchan has fallen… Uhh, Chudjak? Wojak but he's chud and he's you?? hello??
"Wageslaves wizards" aren't normalfags if they work but otherwise subscribe to a wizardly lifestyle and ideology.
No.296864
>>296860>>296862this is literally all you faggots talk about, and y'wonder why /dep/ is so big. There's a thousand and one NEEThikki fantasy lifestyle chans and one wiz, you're as cancerous as the trannies as at this point
No.296929
https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1568614745284005892Good analysis of US geopolitics in Ukraine. Russia's loss is Biden's gain essentially.
I've been reading about the situation in bakhmut where PMC wagner is on the offensive (40k assaulting 50k in a city, ukies have pulled all their slack just to defending this place), and the best take I've heard so far is that Russia is trying to fix the position of Ukranian assets and attrition them through artillery fire which I believe Russia has the advantage in. By some accounts Ukraine's 600k fielded army is down to 1/3rd it's initial size. Ukraine still has the numbers advantage but this is transient
Anyone know of good operational analysis of the fighting? Can't find many good non-pozzed sources
No.296949
>>296929>Russia's loss is Biden's gain essentiallythis partly explains why his adversaries mainly on the far right are so mad lol. if the situation is so advantageous to their country what is there to be upset about? the pro-russia shills can't deal with the fact that this disaster's on them, if you want to protest the war out of some teary-eyed pacifism, go and do it in moscow. they won't though, because deep down they're pissed about russia not winning, the ukrainians be damned. a russian bridge getting blown up is unacceptable but ukrainian cities and civilian infrastructures being shelled is okay though.
No.297434
Looks like that recession that seemed like it was coming is finally here. You see the leading indicators start popping but then because employment is strong you think, oh maybe it won't happen this time, but then it starts happening, the money dries up. You can see it happen. The gig economy subreddits are full of people complaining that there's not enough work to go around. Layoffs here and there. People don't have enough money. Used car prices which were going up and up for ages are finally plummeting. Shit is gonna get ugly here soon.
No.297436
>>296949I check out about five seconds into your post but out of bored curiosity read the rest, and you spent about 300 words saying more or less nothing.
>>296950there's actually zero correlation between climate change and extreme weather. Even the UN admits this. We do however have weather manipulation technology which is almost certainly used in the ukraine war context.
>>297434you got any charts or is this more of a qualitativve thing
No.297446
>>297434What made me realize that the hard times are finally here is the usual cheap mince I buy going from 500g to 400g despite the price being 20% higher than what it was three years ago. 20% less product, 20% higher price. I stood in the supermarket and thought "wow, this is how it begins".
No.297469
>>297436>there's actually zero correlation between climate change and extreme weather. Even the UN admits this.source?
No.297471
>>297469I ain't spoonfeeding retards anymore, use yandex
No.297472
>>297471so you don't know
No.297474
>>297473The UN are terrorists
No.297475
>>297473use yandex not the fake and gay search engines. You can find the discussion in the first few chapters of apocalypse never. Just skim rather than read because it's a leftyfag book
>"significant influence">"Significantly increased"this ain't compelling either
No.297476
>Somehow, terraforming the planet into a hollowed-out plastic landfill doesn't betray that humans have massive impact on the climate. Look at this epic deboonk book by Mr. "Skeptic" Lobbyist Man. Fortunately, my bar for adequate evidence is a lot lower when it says what I want to believe.
No.297477
>>297476>Apocalypse Never:Scholars have done similar analyses of normalized tropical cyclone losses in Latin America, the Caribbean, Australia, China, and the Andhra Pradesh region in India,” Pielke notes. “In each case they have found no trend in normalized losses.” And it’s not just hurricanes. “There is scant evidence to indicate that hurricanes, floods, tornadoes or drought have become more frequent or intense in the U.S. or globally,” he wrote later. “In fact we are in an era of good fortune when it comes to extreme weather.” The IPCC says the same thing. “Long-term trends in economic disaster losses adjusted for wealth and population increases have not been attributed to climate change,” notes a special IPCC report on extreme weather, “but a role for climate change has not been excluded.” Pielke stresses that climate change may be contributing to some extreme weather events. “For instance,” he notes, “some recent research is suggestive that regional warming in the western United States can be associated with increasing forest fires.” But climate change so far has not resulted in increases in the frequency or intensity of many types of extreme weather. The IPCC “concluded that there’s little evidence of a spike in the frequency or intensity of floods, droughts, hurricanes and tornadoes,” explains Pielke. “There have been more heat waves and intense precipitation, but these phenomena are not significant drivers of disaster costs.”
getting very bored of spoonfeeding low information npc's whose fundamental objection is DATS NOT WHAT DA NEWS TOLD ME! and frequently lack basic reading comprehension
No.297478
>H-here, let me spoonfeed you feces from this book rolling with the epic extreme weather strawman! I don't know what rigor is and already forgot any retarded argument can be published in a book. Don't Trust the Science™ (unless it's from someone saying what you want to hear).
>Ugh, and of course everyone else is tedious! Start agreeing with my inconsistent bar for evidence or I'm packing my toys up and going home!
No.297481
>Heh, you just can't read and you're black lolz0rz!!!
>No, I haven't looked into further counterclaims of these extreme weather criticisms. I'm a true skeptic ™ who stops at the first rebuttal.
No.297482
>>297481t. man who literally cannot read a 100 word paragraph and starts chimping the moment any real citation gets posted
>The IPCC says the same thing. “Long-term trends in economic disaster losses adjusted for wealth and population increases have not been attributed to climate change No.297487
>And as AR5 notes:The simulation of large-scale patterns of precipitation has improved somewhat since the AR4, although models continue to perform less well for precipitation than for surface temperature. In fact, it’s even worse than that. The report states explicitly that, in general, the CMIP5 model ensembles “cannot be taken as a reliable regional probability forecast”37 for any aspect of the climate. In other words, the models are even worse at describing changes in regional climates than they are at describing changes in global quantities
No.297489
>n-no really, you cant read!!1 heh,
You haven't posted anything groundbreaking from the denialism camp. This is all either old shit married to misrepresentations or outright lies. It's like when you were posting the literal BP shill, with his book about how Greenland actually isn't melting or that sea level isn't rising. Those are both 100% false.
You can't even be bothered to read critical response to the bullshit that you post. Why would I give you the benefit of the doubt when you can't even be bothered to check the veracity of their claims? Again, you find someone saying what you're partial toward and you lap it up without a second thought. Gee, almost sounds like a mindless appeal to authority, doesn't it?
No.297490
On average, a single volcano eruption deposits more carbon, sulphur, radiation, micrometals, silicone, and methane in to the atmosphere than humanity has since 0AD
No.297493
>>297489Talking with the town NPCs be like:
>THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED>post discrepancies>THAT'S ALL DEBUNKED>actually my sources are from 2020 onwards and quite recent>IT'S ALL A LIE THEY'RE SHILLS>you know the IPCC was to be found falsifying data, and these practices haven't changed right?>I CAN'T EVEN READ THE BULLSHIT YOU POST BUT YOU'RE WROOOOONNNNNGMeanwhile:
>The long-term rate of rise is 2.87 ± 0.09 mm per year, not very different from the 3 mm per year rate of rise seen in the GMSL over the past few decades. .
>One particularly jarring failure is that the simulated global average surface temperature (not the anomaly) varies among models by about 3ºC (5.6ºF), three times greater than the observed value of the twentieth-century warming they’re purporting to describe and explain. .
>Consider this from the Max Planck Institute modelers: We have documented how we tuned the MPI-ESM1.2 global climate model to match the instrumental record warming; an endeavor which has clearly been successful. Due to the historical order of events, the choice was to do this practically by targeting an ECS of about 3 K [3ºC] using cloud feedbacks, as opposed to tuning the aerosol forcing. >In other words, the researchers tuned their model to make its sensitivity to greenhouse gases what they thought it should be. Talk about cooking the book No.297494
What's going on in Brazil right now looks almost exactly like what happened in the US 2020 election
No.297495
>>297494Funny I just said this but reversed about 6 hours ago. Brazil is American decay anticipated to a shorter timescale than the gray developed societies of Japan or Korea.
No.297497
>>297494>>297495Care to elaborate? I only know the protesters are significant in number and they occupied the seat of government with police storming it.
No.297500
>For the year 2021, EFOS increased by 5.1 % relative to 2020, with fossil emissions at 10.1 ± 0.5 GtC yr−1 (9.9 ± 0.5 GtC yr−1 when the cement carbonation sink is included), and ELUC was 1.1 ± 0.7 GtC yr−1, for a total anthropogenic CO2 emission (including the cement carbonation sink) of 10.9 ± 0.8 GtC yr−1 (40.0 ± 2.9 GtCO2).
>Friedlingstein et al. 2022
>Global estimates of the annual present-day CO2 output of the Earth’s degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes range from 0.13 to 0.44 billion metric tons (gigatons) per year [Gerlach, 1991; Allard, 1992; Varekamp et al., 1992; Sano and Williams, 1996; Marty and Tolstikhin, 1998
No.297501
>>297500Cool, I just made up that thing about the volcanoes, but thanks for doing research and proving I was right on my behalf
No.297502
>hurr this book published in 2020 is a source!!!!11
No it isn't, you absolute retard. LMFAO! Nice high school C-average education.
>ok well dat means all his talking points are sourced from 2020!!!11
Once again, nope! It's not even just a matter of data being old, but also being misrepresented or pushed once more long after it's failed to withstand scrutiny. Retards like you are why we have the same nitpicky arguments for decades. You're just too plain stupid to educate yourself. You think "hmm me like this word order, it pretty" period. Then, you project your inability to practice or recognize rigor onto others, ironically calling them NPCs when nothing resembling critical thought is going into your views.
No.297503
>>297501>~37Gt is less than 0.44GtHoly fuck, you're one stupid nigger!
No.297505
>>297503But that data was published by government-funded researchers, which means it's the opposite of reality. I'm right, them numbers are wrong.
No.297507
>>297505Oh, I see, I misunderstood you.
No.297509
>>297508>Apocalypse Never wasn't published in 2020Double-check that for yourself, champ.
No.297511
>>297509first evidence that you were even aware I've cited from several books
No.297513
>>297512Jesus christ man, the other one is unsettled (2021) by koonin
No.297515
>>297513I realized that, felt like deleting and adding that I don't really give a shit that you are quoting two books with the same general thrusts because it matters for nothing. They both have very similar problems. Some of these lines of argument have been around longer than you clearly knew.
When you have people whose data you're citing for your own book come out and say that you grossly misinterpreted their data, you might just be full of shit and pushing a certain agenda. This is certainly not out of the realm of possibility given Koonin's industry ties. By the way, IPCC is constantly criticized for making incredibly conservative predictions that haven't aligned with what's been seen in practice.
No.297516
>>297515So you don't think there's huge political pressure to toe the line on the anthropocentric global warming narrative?
>comes out to try and scold the author who uses their research because it paints them in a bad light by proxyis so commonplace I essentially ignore these criticisms
>IPCC is too conservative (no evidence cited) No.297517
>>297516https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/wall-street-journal-article-repeats-multiple-incorrect-and-misleading-claims-made-in-steven-koonins-new-book-unsettled-steven-koonin/>there's huge political pressure to toe the line on the anthropogenic global warming narrative>politicians, people who are in the pockets of the parties who benefit from ineffective environmental regulations>politicians, who constantly pay lip service to the general public so that they might get re-elected and continue to receive gifts from the parties who benefit from ineffective environmental regulations>theyre really and earnestly hamming up this whole evil climate conspiracy that would affect their own legitimacy and the holdings of their sugar daddies, bro…..
>>IPCC is too conservative (google it for me)https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=51 No.297646
>>297590That's nothing. Jannies unpaid labor is like 100 times that.
No.297647
>>296284https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/australia-social-credit-internet-access/It's fake news. This is not the real OP, this is some other schizo who posts things that never happened
No.297650
>>297590the stupidest part about "succubus's work" is that they all voluntarily choose to keep high standards of cleanliness and would be doing this anyways. Very insipid article but thankfully I don't think this part of feminism will ever catch on
No.297651
>>297647>>297647Snopes fact-check exists to calm people down when bad news is seen on the horizon. Damage control. Backpedlling. Lying until the plan is ready to be tested.
No.297656
>>297655>strung out druggie whore dies while guards are restraining herI’m not shocked. I’m actually glad for those guards. Imagine you’re tasked with moving some crazy bitch who’s already on deaths door and she dies on your watch, why should you be charged for that? They were just the unlucky fucks on duty that night from my perspective.
No.297657
>>297656Oh I see you need more context. Tell me with a straight face that this video doesn't make you angry
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1673/95/1673956723434652.web No.297664
Is everyone is the chansphere a faggot little zoomer with a Fortnite T-shirt, still in school? Living in prosperous middle class cities? All I hear about is waaah trannies yet I’ve never met a tranny, yet I constantly hear old sluts whining on about refugees. All the fucking time it’s just like all you political retards, so how do you losers feel so oppressed in real life? Are you all mixed race city zoomers? Pls reply.
No.297707
I know I'm in a rightoid cesspit /pol/ thread but this city I live in, is a testament to how liberals are a slimey, narcissistic, shady, dishonest group of people. At least conservatives don't claim to be what they're not.
It's funny, this city is very diverse now despite hollowing it out (and kicking out poor non-whites and whites) for themselves; whites, niggers, fags, pakis, jews and what have you but they all have the same dress sense, they all go to the same schools, they all come from wealth, all have this BULLSHIT sense of superiority because they support "progressive" issues despite serving capitalism. They're all clearly part of the same class.
No.297713
>>297707>At least conservatives don't claim to be what they're not.nah they do
No.297756
>>297707The number of people, liberals in particular, that wear overpriced, sweatshop produced clothing is borderline psychotic, especially when they have some kind of idpol written on the front. They should tattoo nike ticks in the shape of a swastika on their heads.
No.297758
>>297756Proletarian homocapitalism
No.297772
>>297707>At least conservatives don't claim to be what they're notThey claim to be fiscally conservative and responsible.
They are not.
They spend as much as libs and if they had their way would force the economy into neo-mercantilism.
No.297783
Oy vey da retardz keep kvetching in my thread oh no what am I gonna do, browse pol?
No.297784
>>297772I guess it's a difference of being stabbed in the front vs the back.
No.297786
>>297772Thats coalitian effects, a small minority of republicans are actually fiscally conservative, neocon war hawk Christian conservative is the largest demo
No.297828
Humans suck and politics just dressed up barbarism. Life is tumor
No.297829
Humans are great. Politics are necessary to keep incompatible folk mutually distanced. Live is good and cool
No.297854
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/413725971So NATO might as well be a US dependency given the number of army bases they have in these countries. The idea that Russia will invade Germany/Poland is of course ludicrous, and I've been impressed at German hesitancy to get involved as the golem funding Ukraine. Imagine fighting for a war entirely serving US policy overextension to prop up one of the most corrupt countries in eastern europe. It's insane obviously
No.297856
>>297854>The idea that Russia will invade Germany/Poland is of course ludicrousWe heard the same thing last year regarding Ukraine.
But yeah, you're right, and that's thanks to NATO.
No.297858
>>297856the historic relationship between Ukraine and Russia is much closer than Russia and Poland.
No.297859
>>297858so? does that mean the ukrainians should roll over?
No.297861
>>297859It means NATO is stupid to get involved in the Ukraine war as if it's a direct attack on their alliance system. It isn't, this is a proxy war between the US post cold war alliance system and emerging multipolarity. >NATO is just being used as a pawn by an outside power that shouldn't even have strategic interests in Europe
No.297862
>>297861why should they not cynically take advantage of the fact that russia invaded the country to cripple them militarily? and why do you think the ukrainians are fighting back?
No.297863
>It means NATO is stupid to get involved in the Ukraine war as if it's a direct attack on their alliance system.
this line is rich. we all know the same russia apologists who whine over assistance to ukraine would throw any eastern european nato member to the wolves if russia were to make a move on them.
'latvia??? we don't even know that place, let moscow have it, it's not worth risking nuclear war'
No.297866
i am on ukraine's side insofar as winning the conflict adds legitimacy and further emboldens the western regime. i live in the west so i see no reason to be a contrarian retard and hope that faith in it is weakened. i dont care if it is degenerate. everyplace is. it is the dumbest pipedream to hope that russia or china or islam will save white people. it isnt a far cry from exalting niggers. if you are white and look up to any other nation, you are cucked all the same as the average westerner. those nations would destroy the west all the same anyway.
that is my take on the lesser of two evils in this situation. wish people couldve moved on from this rationale a long time ago, but it just isnt pragmatic. better for the few people i care about if nato destroys its enemies and slowly decays from within, better too if it throws the manlet putin into a tantrum and he initiates MAD. nothing lasts forever.
No.297868
>>297866The lesser of two evils is how you got Biden, nigger.
No.297870
>>297868that's how everything goes, retard, and your slavic mongrel war is no different. nice botpost bordering on non-sequitur.
No.297871
>>297707Watching London being socially cleansed over the past 20 or so years has been a trip. I predict it will become a city-state.
No.297873
>>297866white people dont benefit at all from this dumb slav war
you would be better focused on the happenings within your own country than being distracted by that total nonsense
No.297875
Imagine thinking Europa has a strategic interest in preserving ukraine or any of the balts. You're just a meatshield for the satanic US NWO now being directed to become the golem. Ukraine will never pay back NATO aid in kind and in the event of a settlement will be entirely owned by blackrock "redevelopment" in the reconstruction of Iraq sense. War's all fun on the internet until you have to start dying it leftypol
No.297876
^noooooooo just let russia win the war or ur [those ppl who worship marx and lenin and stalin] nooooooo
move to the east anytime, contrarian badass.
>>297873that's why i said "insofar," because i barely follow it. still doesnt change the fact that, yes, white people in fact
do benefit more from nato asserting itself against russia (they at the very least certainly dont benefit from the opposite). legitimacy in the eyes of the international community matters greatly, which is chiefly why usa dominates global trade. thats why the oceans are full of us naval vessels, why most relevant nations are dotted with us military bases and why the dollar is the de facto global currency.
people who say otherwise are plainly contrarian retards who fell for this heckin wholesomerino trad east propaganda. there are no good guys in geopolitics. it's one pack of greedy assholes vs another. im not gonna be a contrarian retard and root for the underdog asshole (and then also pretend they are stronk nearly a year into the 3 day special military operation like a coping faggot).
No.297877
>>297876The American empire prints up massive deficits and then exports that inflation abroad to other countries. It then uses this funny money to fund an international empire designed to keep competitors out and export globohomo abroad to weaken nation-state independence. By any metric propping up Ukraine as a proxy state is a massive overextension into traditional russian sphere of influence and you're fucking dumb if you think the ostensible system of government has anything to do with this
No.297878
>>297877dont care, get fucked third world loser. russia would do the same if they were remotely close to competent, but they arent so they cant. boo hoo faggot.
No.297879
>>297876>white people in fact do benefit more from nato asserting itself against russiai still don't see how any of this affects whites in particular, unless you mean because it affects the pozzed faggot europeans that it affects whites
No.297880
furthermore, everything you said just complements my stance on the issue. you are very intelligent to reinforce my point.
No.297881
>>297829>Live is good and cooldon't even joke about that
No.297882
>>297879>slavs murdering each other>a paper tiger from the east embarrasses itself on the global stagei lol
No.297884
>>297878average low information ukope shill too dumb to realize the American empire benefits nobody except the moneychangers skimming the top. Russia's going on the offensive and has a favorable force ratio btw
No.297885
>>297884>noooooo the global trade authority losing a war is actually a good thing for average westerner cuz muh jews btfoand you call me dumb. two more weeks, you delusional faggot.
lmfao
No.297886
>>297882what's your point? slavs are white, therefore the war affects whites??
No.297889
>>297885>t. germans in stalingradrussians don't give a shit about death, there's lots of them, they've always won their wars this way, just throwing massive amounts of cannon fodder, toughest people, i wish the west would get rid of this fucking zelensky asshole already. disgusted to hear there are tanks going there. get fucked NATO
No.297890
>>297889Russia never won a war
No.297891
>>297885>the moneychangers>the FED>the international banking cartel which destabilizes countries attempting to create a currency independent of USD and the debt-money system across the worldImagine being a european getting prepped to die in an intervention in ukraine because they will invariably run out of manpower. A country that has historically been in Russian orbit for over 100 years, until the US sponsored a color revolution (Thanks, "democracy"!) to prop up their designs on expanding the hegemony to eastern europe. I'm sure it looks much less appetizing especially when considered that Russia does not have Designs on NATO at all
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/holding-ground-losing-war/ No.297892
>>297891to make this perfectly clear, Ukraine as a buffer is an American geostrategic project that goes back all the way to the George Bush days and this is what soured the west's relationship with Russia. Liberal democracy is a JOKE and Ukraine is a Kleptocracy and not even a real democracy so we can forget about that nonsense. The Americans could just openly arm Ukraine with tanks but in an effort to PR spin this as something other than an american project they'd rather bully "NATO" into doing their policy bidding for them under the ridiculous notion that the ukraine conflict, which has been going on for YEARS, is somehow an existential threat to the security of Europe. It's a joke and you should feel bad
No.297893
>>297891russia doesnt have the rest of the world as a buffer zone, you balloon-headed retard. doesnt change the fact that they indeed have designs (guess you forgot they have been in conflict with ukraine for at least decade alone, ignoring their long history of imperial pursuits). and i dont give a shit about democracy. it's only good for keeping cattle sated. you retards cry about ukraine shills and muh ebil nato niggerjew empire, then pretend like russia dindu nuffin (or that they are le based trad monoethnic society LOL).
>therandomcontrarianaltpunditlink some CRP and Scott Ritter while you're at it lol. dont care about your milquetoast mouthpieces.
>The Americans could just openly arm Ukraine with tanks but in an effort to PR spin this as something other than an american project they'd rather bully "NATO" into doing their policy bidding for them under the ridiculous notion that the ukraine conflict, which has been going on for YEARS, is somehow an existential threat to the security of Europe. It's a joke and you should feel bad.why the fuck should i feel bad? can you read english? i only care about what furthers usa because thats what benefits (again, that also includes what least undermines, since the world doesnt run on your armchair ideals) my family. russia can invade your country and flay your microdick off for all i care, so long as they lose by attrition. and not a SINGLE time have i mentioned muh democracy. only you have. it's like you are arguing some prepackaged strawmen you constructed from your time getting baited by bots on 4chan. total fucking RT drone contrarian retard, i honestly hope you do get conscripted to die for my nation's encroachments lmao.
No.297894
>>297893The idea that American geostrategic interests serve anybody but a select group at the top is the fallacy. They don't serve Nato or even the American people particularly. Short of NATO intervention or an intensive campaign to arm Ukraine this war is going to end in Russia's favor. That article summarizes a fairly common discussion involving the Ukranian army casualty rate and asset attrition. The territorial gains haven't been very impressive but the Ukranian army is clearly in no position to go on the offensive even with the latest wunderwaffen
>muh shills!go to /k/ and take a look around for about an hour and tell me it's normal
No.297896
>>297894>The idea that American geostrategic interests serve anybody but a select group at the top is the fallacyit's already been outlined why that's not the case. there is no reason for usa to lose face and undermine their own legitimacy as the global authority, which would hurt the regular western citizen. so yes, that alone is enough for me to support russia and whoever else getting fucked over. and, as we can see from someone else sharing bill gates spewing bullshit in 2015 thinking he's some compelling voice of reason, plenty of oligarchs (even western-grown ones) have much to lose alongside russia.
you keep trying to make this out to be something about good vs evil and i havent stated anything past that i want the regime that my family lives under to be victorious so as to reap the benefits, or yet again (because you are very clearly a selective reader), to decelerate the decay of the aforementioned regime. much of geopolitical struggle is evil vs evil. both parties want what the other has and they dont care who they trample over trying to steal it. i will take an america-centric world over everything else so long as my family lives here.
it doesnt mean that i am a fan of the bureaucracy or ignorant of the puppeteers or blind to the myriad social pitfalls that afflict it. if youre seriously so retardedly stubborn that you cant understand how living at the political center of the world is beneficial, i guess you also cant understand how a russian victory offers me less than nothing.
>it's this one autistic guy who always crying about shills on 4chan/kcalled it earlier lol. the only reason i mentioned ukraine shills is because i was called one when i plainly stated why i prefer a russian loss. it's basically a npc response at this point. i have no doubt that there are actual shills for ukraine. it wouldnt be anything new to prime and maintain the public to support another conflict. i wonder if you think russia is incapable of disseminating propaganda?
and i dont really care what anyone says on 4chan/k, let alone armchair analysis anywhere else online. people/bots there dont know shit about actual logistics, you dont, your favorite mouthpieces dont and i dont. so many people predicted russian loss or victory countless times before now and there is still no end in sight.
watch some faggot who has been wrong about everything else during this war make a relatively accurate prediction for its closure and get heralded as a genius because everyone likes to forget about broken clocks when they hear something they have been primed to support.
No.297897
>>297896The fundamental conflict going on is between the globalist neoliberal order and multipolarity. The eastern european defense line was formalized under Bush Jr and was about locking Russia into geopolitical marginalization by alienating it from traditional allies and buffer states. It is also a complete overextension as none of the western european allies are interested in dying for it and it's a US project rebranded.
Up until several months ago Russia did not mobilize sufficient numbers of troops to replace losses and treat the special operation as a total war. Ukraine on the other hand has drafted multiple waves and actually has had more men involved in the fighting than Russia has had. However the most recent figures on Russia to Ukraine place at least a 2:1 ratio in terms of manpower. Additionally Russia has an artillery advantage in some regions supposedly as high as 9:1. Moreover while the west is beginning to supply arms in small quantities and ad hoc Russia is producing about 90 t90 tanks a month or more. Conversely we know Ukraine has had at least 100,000 OFFICERS KIA, which may mean the actual losses once enlisted and wounded are taken into account could be several times higher. Russia also reports about 100,000+ KIA but the point is that the Ukranian army is Atrited. All this is to say the material advantage is in Russian hands and we can expect to see consistent gains, which indeed we already are seeing in the Bakhmut region and several other places.
I won't say Ukraine is a truly forgone conclusion yet but getting Vlad out of the eastern territories absolutely is. The only possible outcome short of a grinding victory for Russia or years of stalemate is negotiated settlement recognizing the status quo as de facto.
>/k/ isn't shilledGo to the board and tell me that with a straight face. If you have any comprehension of what /k/ looked like around the time of zimzam or the chimpouts you'll know it isn't even recognizable as the same community now. Jannies ban Narrative challenging posters constantly while literal nogunz redditors piss away in 10-20 constant shilling threads designed to obfuscate information and make low information normies somehow conclude Ukope is winning. It is so insufferable that I've basically just gone full slava Z glass kiev at this point because the ukope argument is fucking retarded
No.297898
>so many people predicted russian loss or victory countless times before
the latter a lot more than the former overall. one year ago how many did not even believe the russians would invade, and then were certain the war would be over in a few days? now they're so desperate they resort to claiming russia will win eventually because they have more meat to throw into the grinder and nukes. ww1 tactics and threats nobody takes seriously.
it's strange how everything flies out the window with these people when it comes to russia. pragmatism, ideals, principles, realpolitik.
No.297899
>>297887actually respond instead of greentexting, i have no fucking idea what you're trying to say
i didnt get a clear answer as to how this gay war specifically affects whites one way or another
i assumed you were saying slavs are white
now you are calling them mongrels so clearly that isn't the case
No.297900
>>297897ok, armchair general. i am sure you were a decorated 5 star and remain a respected consultant for top brass the world over. oh, and a clairvoyant too.
>>/k/ isn't shilledhow you took this away from what i said is beyond me. my points in that regard were that all sides push narratives someplace (NOT that there arent ukraine shills on k) and that my desired outcome isnt based on anything that i have read about the war because nobody can read the future and know for certain. i personally was not shilling for ukraine as i had been accused of doing. i want what is best (this is not synonymous with ideal in reality) for my siblings and what i view as best is hoping that their homeland maintains its place as the highest authority.
you keep explaining stuff that i already understand, like how usa does not want a multipolar world, and i am not objecting to facts like that because i have understood for decades that any other regime would be considered the greatest perpetrator of crimes against humanity in history for what usa has done over the course of its short existence. i can get all sentimental and flagellate myself for usa's war crimes, but im not going to because i believe amplifying that sentiment in any small way is potentially counterintuitive to my family's welfare. for all the reasons that i shouldnt support usa, i have even more not to support russia.
>>297899i was being facetious and preemptively mocking the common talking point about how russia (or any other "enemy" of the west) is going to save the white race, not that ukrainians or russians are monoethnic and white. the misunderstanding is entirely on your end.
No.297918
>>297898>>297900>>297911If you actually look at the material factors, which have dictated the course of ever single war I should add, Russia has enough of an advantage coming to go on the offensive again. Western aid consists of several hundred bradley's, a very low number of tanks, half a SPG's, and mostly just ammunition stocks. This is hardly enough for Ukraine to go back on the offensive like they claim. Up until now Ukraine has had the advantage of a larger standing army which has allowed them to go back on the offensive and that advantage is now dissipating
>multipolarity badNot only is it inevitable, it's probably for the best that the states not be able to interfere so broadly in the affairs of other nations
No.297919
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/lawyer-john-carpay-follow-judge-criminal-charges-1.6701320Anti-Lockdown lawyer paid a PI to tail a local judge to catch him breaking covid regs; Gets charged with obstruction of Justice. Here's your DeMoCrAcY guy, you can say whatever you want if it's unheard and do whatever you want if it's ineffective but god forbid you start applying these rules to the Judiciary which has been pushing progressive gospel under the mantel of impartiality for over 50 years
No.297921
>>297866>i am on ukraine's side insofar as winning the conflict adds legitimacy and further emboldens the western regime. i live in the west so i see no reason to be a contrarian retard and hope that faith in it is weakened. i dont care if it is degenerate. everyplace is.>>297876>still doesnt change the fact that, yes, white people in fact do benefit more from nato asserting itself against russia (they at the very least certainly dont benefit from the opposite). legitimacy in the eyes of the international community matters greatly, which is chiefly why usa dominates global trade. thats why the oceans are full of us naval vessels, why most relevant nations are dotted with us military bases and why the dollar is the de facto global currency.>there are no good guys in geopolitics. it's one pack of greedy assholes vs another. im not gonna be a contrarian retard and root for the underdog asshole>>297893>i only care about what furthers usa because thats what benefits (again, that also includes what least undermines, since the world doesnt run on your armchair ideals) my family. russia can invade your country and flay your microdick off for all i care, so long as they lose by attrition. and not a SINGLE time have i mentioned muh democracy. only you have.>>297896>it's already been outlined why that's not the case. there is no reason for usa to lose face and undermine their own legitimacy as the global authority, which would hurt the regular western citizen. so yes, that alone is enough for me to support russia and whoever else getting fucked over.>you keep trying to make this out to be something about good vs evil and i havent stated anything past that i want the regime that my family lives under to be victorious so as to reap the benefits, or yet again (because you are very clearly a selective reader), to decelerate the decay of the aforementioned regime. much of geopolitical struggle is evil vs evil. both parties want what the other has and they dont care who they trample over trying to steal it. i will take an america-centric world over everything else so long as my family lives here.>>297900>i personally was not shilling for ukraine as i had been accused of doing. i want what is best (this is not synonymous with ideal in reality) for my siblings and what i view as best is hoping that their homeland maintains its place as the highest authority.>you keep explaining stuff that i already understand, like how usa does not want a multipolar world, and i am not objecting to facts like that because i have understood for decades that any other regime would be considered the greatest perpetrator of crimes against humanity in history for what usa has done over the course of its short existence. i can get all sentimental and flagellate myself for usa's war crimes, but im not going to because i believe amplifying that sentiment in any small way is potentially counterintuitive to my family's welfare. for all the reasons that i shouldnt support usa, i have even more not to support russia.People should read these quotes carefully to understand how this position has been constructed. It combines a self-confessed inability to defend US hegemony on its own terms with a defense of it on purely personal grounds.
A weakness of this position (if we take it at face value) is American and European interests often don't align. It's not in European interests to deploy missiles in Ukraine or block oil from Russia or Iran, which is why the EU adopted different policies to the US in these matters (including building intercontinental pipelines, which have mysteriously been blown up), so a wiz living in those countries could equally say dismantling US hegemony would personally benefit them and be right. If we don't accept the position at face value we can at least see its utility as a lazy defense of the indefensible.
No.297922
>>297921the average American does not benefit from a defense of Eastern Europe either. Reminds me quite a bit of arguments involving the British empire and how maintaining it was for the poor while only the rich benefited
No.297924
>>297918>Not only is it inevitableUh-huh, babby pretends it's a clairvoyant again.
>It combines a self-confessed inability to defend US hegemony on its own terms with a defense of it on purely personal grounds.Rather have an opinion that I personally reasoned than be a balloon-headed retard (like you) adopting views of naive pundits who are likely being paid to proliferate them rather than because they feel strongly about them (or are you actually so fucking dense that you think only things you immediately disagree with are shilled? You never answered this and your grasp on English seems quite bad considering many of your misinterpretations). Furthermore, it isn't an "inability," you utter moron. It's that nobody gives a shit about hypocrisy in the real world. You certainly don't, either, because Russia is your pet-nation who is so perfect and righteous. Well, sadly, the only thing that's righteous in this world is might, and USA isn't the one fighting a proxy war along its own border.
>a wiz living in those countries could equally say dismantling US hegemony would personally benefit them and be rightYeah, no shit, the little armchair general who autistically argues with bots on 4chan all day is finally starting to understand the concept of perspective.
>If we don't accept the position at face value we can at least see its utility as a lazy defense of the indefensible.As in other responses, you make a lot of conclusions that don't follow, whether it's because your English comprehension sucks ass or because you are petty and dishonest. It's really funny how much you cry that logic should be applied equally to everyone and can still think there are any objective "good guys" in geopolitics. Really, I can't take any of
your opinions (well, they aren't really
yours since you only adopted them from your darling mouthpieces) at face value. You seem very disingenuous in general. Too bad that doesn't imbue Putin's ammunition with armor-piercing instakill magic. Only time will tell, little guy.
>>297922You're so right, king! There's no way that the average American benefits from favorable trade. They should always support worst outcomes for their own country so as to undermine the buying power of the dollar and increase the cost of their weekly grocery trips (because why would industry leaders ever pass the losses down to save their own asses? Crazy talk). They clearly aren't affected by erosion of legitimacy just because they all aren't awarded $1,000,000 everytime USA wipes its nutsack across another third-world shithole's busted face.
No.297925
>it's probably for the best that the states not be able to interfere so broadly in the affairs of other nations
yes, like russia in ukraine.
No.297926
>>297924Is this snark supposed to impress anyone?
No.297928
^says the retard who copes about the 3 day special military operation soon to go on its 1-year anniversary lmfao
>>297926I'm not trying to impress you retards, and it's telling that is your reason for engagement, normalfag Telegram nerd. You are very selective about the propaganda you want to believe and who you excuse to invade others. You are just like morons on Twitter with Ukraine flags on their profiles cheering about how Russia is going to lose tomorrow every day. You boil it down to empty snark because you're a triggered nigger, which is also why you take such severe umbrage with the simple statement of what I hope for out of the war.
I don't know, try not being so monumentally retarded if you want people to talk to you softly like you're a child? Good lack of argument punctuated with your own empty snark, though, surely going to convince Americans that they should go directly against their own interests. Oh wait, it's not in their interest because they aren't receiving millions of dollars each. Herpaderp.
No.297929
>>297928>the simple statement of what I hope for out of the war.Can you repeat what that was?
No.297930
>>297929That Russia loses for the sake of US' legitimacy.
No.297932
>>297924It seems like every conversation on the ukope topic devolves into me having to pull up real figures because the shills are too low information to even follow the bare minimum on numbers. You're a fucking idiot not even worth my time fam, I've already looked into this several times and every time I do the arguments in
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/holding-ground-losing-war/ generally seem to be vindicated
>>297926Looks like a low info N@FO faggot. I wouldn't be surprised if they use google alerts to show up wherever da ""vatnik"" (cue kvetching) makes a post on le wrong side of history. Any cursory conversation with le >N@FO shill (funded by the state department to make the public believe fighting an unwinnable war for strategic overextension is in anybody's interest except blackrock and the billionaires) will reveal they are unable to acknowledge even the most cursory discussion of material factors such as numbers equipment etc. I would happily push'em into the ovens and give him the full holocoaster treatment complete with the bear/eagle and masturbation machines
No.297933
Here's le ukrope oiker's argument:
>NATO must die for Blackrock! It benefits me as an American!
Actually it doesn't
>Le monke man waging a merciless war! Dis is evilll
This all started with sorosmaiden nearly a decade ago and Russia has treated it accordingly
>Ukoper winning! We stronkkk
okay so why does Russia have a 2:1 if not more advantage in men, a huge artillery advantage, and as many if not more tanks/afv's than oinkistan even with the based nato greatest ally treatment
>DUHHHH U BRAINWASHED BY RUZZIA VATNIK??????
Breadtube is funded by the US government and reddit is just astroturf. And this is in the low chance you're not just a dumb as fuck millshill/oinker psyop shill posting out of a bunker. Fuck off faggot
No.297934
>>297932>"real figures"Translation:
>hurr durr me tink udder guy number is more prettyHow about let the dust settle, you complete faggot? Again, retard pretends it's immune to propaganda and also a clairvoyant.
>buhbuhbuh shill shill shill nafo nafo oink hohol abloobloobloo!!!What a fucking retard lol. Incapable of recognizing any nuance, picky eater about which propaganda it will gobble down, argues with bots on 4chan all day and
still thinks it is a strategic genius with its secondhand opinions it adopted to fit in with its fellow crabs on Telegram or Matrix. So, in the scenario that Russia does indeed get its shit packed, are you gonna humble yourself? Or just perform more mental gymnastics?
No.297935
>>297934lol. You're an idiot case closed I guess
No.297938
>>297935>lol u dnt want stronk roshka victry as unitedstatesian??? u r dumb kekekekekeThe logic, where is it? Stay ass-chapped, contrarian faglord. I'm gonna make sure to rub it in your fat fucking face at every opportunity if the future favors me. Have fun tonight, arguing bots on 4chan again like a clueless idiot or coordinating epic meme special operations on Telegram with your buttbuddies or whatever sad activities you fill your days with. Putin's surely gonna award you the Gold Star for standing up to all those online shills (whose shadows you see around every corner because your grasp of English is tenuous).
No.297939
>>297930How is US legitimacy going? Do their allies suspect the US blew up nordstream?
No.297940
>>297939Do they? Both of us are more than capable of finding some journalist or pundit for every opinion on what happened. Views and statistics matter for dirt on highly politicized and currently-developing situations. There are conflicts that happened long before either of us were born whose numbers are still disputed. Poltards can't into skepticism (while claiming that they are). It's truly just empty contrarianism rather than an earnest dive toward finding the truth.
But go on, you're clearly jumping at the gun to inform me about how you have life figured out down to the smallest detail. Such pretension between that and believing you can accurately predict the future lol. My whole stance is that it should be maintained for my family's welfare, not that it is guaranteed to be. English must be very hard to comprehend when you're a self-important ideologue.
No.297944
>>297940>Do they? Both of us are more than capable of finding some journalist or pundit for every opinion on what happened. Views and statistics matter for dirt on highly politicized and currently-developing situations.The investigatory bodies bailing out of the JIT and the actions of the German parliament already say everything, but you're free to interpret these events however you like.
>My whole stance is that it should be maintained for my family's welfareYou've already written there's no tangible sign of that, only intangibles like legitimacy and prestige. Forget $1m, your family hasn't benefited $1. The ones benefiting from an oversupply of Russian oil and gas are China and India.
(sage to leave /all/ clear)
No.297955
>>297944It doesn't matter what anybody finds, champ. So long as they remain my country's bitch, I can give a fuck less.
>Forget $1m, your family hasn't benefited $1>n-no really, favorable trade doesnt affect the citizenry. j-just support russia anytime now… please?Braindead. Pout some more next time you get fucked. :)
>sage to assuage my ass damage No.297956
>>297955>Ukraine being a US dependency actually helps you, or any average citizen at allIt doesn't. The only people benefiting are blackrock and possibly the american armaments sector. A euro has zero reason to get involved in ukraine except the argument involving russian imperial ambitions which are clearly overblown.
No.297957
>>297956I'm only European ethnically and whites are clearly never going to organize on ethnic grounds again, so I could care less. Anything that benefits America economically ends up benefitting Americans. Unsure how you can think to sway me by sputtering the same crap arguments out ad nauseam, but go on. Don't forget to sage again, tyke.
It's quite funny to bring up Nord Stream tangentially as a gotcha against US hegemony when you admit that they were too scared to seriously investigate since they were expecting to find US as the culprit. All it winds up proving is how legitimate the US regime is considered. In short: your continent is my country's bitch.
No.297958
>>297957>It benefits my country!>you mean the moneylenders?>Murica numba oneyour brain on ameriburger everyone.
No.297959
>>297958The whole word is dominated by such people. What, you actually thought Russia wasn't? LOL.
No.297960
>>297959multipolarity is preferential. I've already talked about this mister aspergers
No.297961
>>297960For you, it is, but it's also not a magic bullet that cures the problem of nationless wealth so you don't have a point.
No.297962
>>297961several independent centers of power greatly mitigates that issue. It's why they want open markets, world governing forums, overthrow independent central banks threatening alternatives to the system etc
No.297964
>>297955>So long as they remain my country's bitch, I can give a fuck less.Then you've already given up on US legitimacy.
>n-no really, favorable trade doesnt affect the citizenryUS inflation is currently at 8.5%, primarily due to fuel costs. It hasn't benefited citizens.
No.297965
>>297962You won't have several. At best, you will have what you have now, just a different portion of the market for each.
>>297964>war creates inflationWow! What a revelation! War is a bid toward greater prosperity, retard. In the case that Russia gets buttfucked and must capitulate to American demands, it ends up being extremely lucrative long-term given the country's natural wealth.
No.297966
>>297965>you won't have severalwrong. This is the end of my investment in this topic
No.297967
>>297966Thanks for conceding in so many words.
No.297970
>>297965>Wow! What a revelation! War is a bid toward greater prosperity, retard. In the case that Russia gets buttfucked and must capitulate to American demands, it ends up being extremely lucrative long-term given the country's natural wealth.Is this that clairvoyance you were talking about? For now that natural wealth is simply being channeled elsewhere.
No.297971
>>297970>the most obvious product of war? you must think you can read the future heh…That one must've cut you deep to be deliriously using it where it makes no sense lol. If you divorced your emotions from the argument for a second, you would realize that I've made no predictions, only stated my desires.
As in wars that America "lost" like Afghanistan and Iraq, they tore so much of their shit out of the ground that it's not even funny.
No.297975
>>297971>you would realize that I've made no predictions, only stated my desires.>As in wars that America "lost" like Afghanistan and Iraq, they tore so much of their shit out of the ground that it's not even funny.Your long-term desire is to acquire Russia's natural wealth, but you're fine with Afghani lithium and Iraqi oil being in the hands of China and Iran respectively? That's pretty dumb even for someone pretending to be a jingoist troll.
No.297979
>>297975What's pretty dumb is thinking either of those countries pose a tangible threat to USA.
>u-ur le jingoist trole if u disagree with my darling roshka!!!1I've said plenty to the contrary. I've been frank about US' track record. Being pragmatic, however, I have every reason to support my nation's ludicrously aggressive foreign policy. Let's turn the spotlight back to you and how you think Russia has suddenly abandoned imperialistic pursuits (despite actively invading its neighbor at this very moment LMAO). Your shithole is going to be plugged by someone either way.
No.297992
>>297888This Chud clip that thinks and treats you like an idiot cuts out the part before where he says "pre-war"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_WarBack when Yanukovych and his wife were in power and Russian tied oligarchs ruled Ukraine, and Yanukovych had a palace made from embezzled money. Ukraine's economy was growing rapidly after Yanukovych got kicked out and even despite losing a bunch of its prosperous land and having to fight a war in the east.
No.298002
>>297992>This Chud clip that thinks and treats you like an idiot cuts out the part before where he says "pre-war"They always do this. Post blatantly fake or out of context content that can be disproved by anyone willing to spend less than a minute looking up the source (or lack thereof)
No.298081
>>297917>Also the term crab is such a gay thing now, its like the word 'nazi' and gets thrown around by normies everywhere to discredit anyone who is not a complete faggot (if you look at the people who use the word you will notice that most of them are actually homos so their understanding of sex is most likely getting fucked in the ass anyway) and its hardly ever aimed at the right people.I sense a growing population of disenfranchised young males who no longer want to be cogs in the machine, especially when their labour no longer affords themselves the privileges of being able to sustain themselves, being able to afford their own home, being able to attract a mate, being able to start a family, etc. Potential revolutionaries in their midst (or lead weights in their system) so why not call them crabs?
No.298166
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57071977>Under the proposals, social media sites will be required to act on harmful content like this - even when legal>bill blocks misogyny, muh antisemitism, haete speech etcEvery single anglosphere country is turning into a one party authoritarian state hellbent on policing freedom of thought and speech. As one user intelligently put it: "
The British government has no connection to its people. The British government is an occupying power that uses the pretence of "democracy" to divide the people and the "rule of law" to suppress revolt."
No.298213
Everyday i wake up hoping that zelensky is captured and the war is over so i can have $3.99 popeyes sandwhiches and the $5 2 piece 2 sides box again
No.298282
>>298213The war has very little to do with fast food prices and even if it ended tomorrow it's extremely unlikely for prices to return to 2019 levels.
Fact of the matter is far too much money was "printed" and it has caused
MASSIVE inflation in all major currencies. That means both your and my money is worth less than it was and prices have to go up to compensate.
No.298285
>>298282the comments sections of news sites and social media are full of posters mad that the war is dragging on
wah wah the guvmint is shipping tanks to ukraine and my poor grandma cant afford to drive to the hospital because gas prices too high and my kids are freezing at school >:( or some other melodramatic shit
it's as if they were unaware that there is a war going on, like i understand americans feeling this way as they're thousands of miles away from it all but as an european this is inexcusable. people take national security for granted like this can't ever happen to them
the eastern european states that we used to mock for being hawkish and paranoid were right all along
No.298292
>>298285It's easy to concern troll about muh security muh values when you're some well of yuppie insulated from the externalities of war in his daily life. No asshole, I don't want to struggle buying food so your favorite aristocrats can fight some other ones over some piece of clay.
No.298295
>>298292I think he's being sarcastic.
No.298303
>>298292Struggle? America overproduce food which then rots anyway.
No.298328
>>298282Bruh that $ could at least help neets who are struggling instead of keeping an entitled greedy kike dictator in power
No.298329
>>298328neets should help themselves by tracking down rich onlyfan thots and burglarizing their houses. otherwise they get no respect
No.298334
>>298303>which then rots anyway.Most of our overproduction is sold globally or processed to create value added products like any other capitalist country.
We don't grow food just to let it rot. Only a very small percentage of raw yelds go to waste and usually it's due to reasons outside of human control. Like whole fields of almost ripe food being taken out by natural disasters.
No.298335
>>298328A big part of why inflation is hitting so hard is because of giving normies "free" money to neet during wu-flu.
While I will agree giving money to corrupt governments and military contractors isn't a wise use of resources, such spending being divided to welfare is also a bad idea.
Honestly full government austerity measures with major across the board cutbacks are ideal. Especially major cuts to entitlement programs. The vast majority of those "neets" on those programs aren't the wizardly sort. The vast majority are breeders. Single succubi with kids and old people.
I for one am tired of my money being forcibly taken and given to breeders who are nothing but irresponsible burdens on everyone else.
No.298343
>>298335$2400 with no strings attached only sounds like a large amount of money on paper.
Then you realize the NEET's that actually get that money must spend $1600 on their run down shitty apartment's rent, $400 on groceries and $300 on meds.
So in the end they will live on a hundred dollars for 30 days.
You need obscene amounts of money to survive in 2023 even in shitty rural locations which used to be dirt cheap in 2010.
There are people and entire families who lived in these "cheap locations" who are now forced into living out of vans or car trunks.
Life has become a living hell for those who don't have access to the money needed for a minimum standard of acceptable living.
Entitlement programs and welfare programs just keep these people alive.
These programs don't make anyone rich. It just keeps these people from simply dying off.
Only sociopaths and edgy teens suggest these people should simply be killed off or allowed to starve North-Korea style.
No sane society has ever done that, even medieval monarchies had programs in place to keep their subjects alive.
No.298347
>>298335>I for one am tired of my money being forcibly taken and given to breeders who are nothing but irresponsible burdens on everyone else.Wizards don't make up a majority of the workforce, shit would stop running without breeders.
No.298383
>>298335Austerity has always been trash. If you live in America or really a lot of countries welfare is already skinned to the bone based on what some rich person's out of touch ideas of what is liveable (they already think everyone has family to support them, which most normies do so the cuts only affect the silent ones and wizardly types who will never be listened to)
No.298397
>>298295no
>yuppie insulated from the externalities of war in his daily lifemost people in europe are, and the consequences of russia winning would lead to far greater problems in the future
it's cowardice from people who take national security for granted
No.298422
>>298397>most people in europe areWhat fucking Europe are you living in?
No.298424
>>298347>shit would stop running without breeders.Good
No.298425
>>298383>Not spending money you don't have has always been shitUnlimited spending and buying votes through entitlements will ether stop the hard way (austerity) or the hardest way (economic collapse). The status quo is unsustainable.
>If you live in America or really a lot of countries welfare is already skinned to the boneThe exact opposite is true. You literally couldn't be any farther from the Truth if you tried. Entitlements have ballooned out of control and there has literally never in human history that spending has been as extensive as it is now.
>they already think everyone has family to support themNo, they rightfully think they have no obligation to totally materially and financially support some rando they don't know nor care about simply because that person chooses not to work.
That and that when such money is taken by a ultra inefficient bureaucracy it is mostly wasted and it would be far more effective to just do things directly through voluntary charity.
It has nothing to do with the assumption of familiar support.
No.298439
>>298422the melodramatic predictions of people starving and freezing were bs unsurprisingly, and not all of it can be attributed to the situation in ukraine
and when it is it is very much deserved, like shit being dependant upon an unreliable partner to supply you with energy might bite you in the ass down the line??? who could have seen this coming lol
No.298450
>>298449They do deserve it. Why are people so stupid?
No.298455
>>298452At every step of the way the US has gone above and beyond to escalate this conflict, including using totally illegal methods to do so including destroying the pipeline, providing means and targets to attack Russian soil, and doing everything but put US soldiers on the ground.
It's crystal clear that the US 100% doesn't want peace. It wants to take Russia off the table by getting them to deplete their war resources in a quagmire proxy conflict.
No.298457
>>298455Well duh. One of the first things Trump did was fire Victoria Nuland's ass out of the state department. One of the first things Biden did was hire her back in and to a higher position. Obviously she's going to go straight back to escalating all the bullshit in The Ukraine she had started in the first place. That's what psychotic jews do best.
No.298461
>>298425Back in 2020 there was a (planned) collapse, and the rich printed themselves lots of money to declare that they won. The status quo is not what you think it is. You can go back to 2008 and see what was done to get an accurate idea of just what we're living in.
I don't know what world you live in where the welfare life is great. That money by the way is the workers' own money. They're taxed directly for SS retirement and SSDI, and not one cent is paid out that wasn't taken in from past taxes. The moment the payouts exceed the total money taken in from tax, it's written into the law that benefits will drop accordingly. Mind that this doesn't correspond to any stored money - there isn't an actual stash of money sitting there that is guaranteed for payouts. In principle, though, Social Security was always paying the workers back their own money collectively, and redistributing it to those who are retired or can't work (and if someone is approved for disability, whatever you think of them, they're ruled out of the working world for all intents and purposes - so people on disability are living in an open-air prison and the payout is the cost of institutionalizing them).
The way it's set up, the money spent on welfare is tied to conditions which compel the recipients to feed that money back into businesses. So, nothing really changes, and the overall objective is to seize what is really important to the rulers and take back the family home and all that stuff that was accumulated over 200+ years.
The other big "entitlement" is food stamps, i.e. the thing that props up the entire agricultural sector. No one wants to take that away except the most hardcore Republicans, and if they actually did the thing Trump wanted to do and replace it with contracted services delivering shit rations, they would face a revolt from anyone voting for them. Any time they suggest doing what their ghoulish neoliberal wonks want them to do, the base is disgusted and stops playing along with the kayfabe. At the moment, the Democrats made themselves the Party of Order. It's all play-acting of course but basically, whatever welfare is paid out is basically null in effect. The thing the neolibs hate is that poor people continue living, because what they value is depopulation and making everyone suffer.
If you want to enable that rot, go ahead, but the simple reality is that there is no reason why we are made to suffer. It doesn't motivate people to work harder, but that was never the point. The only work neoliberals appreciate is cannibalizing existing infrastructure so the rich can kill off everyone else. It's stupid, and in the upper crust they talk about depopulation all the fucking time. Anyone still pulling the 1990s Republican talking points is a piece of shit who should be ignored.
No.298464
>>298461>the rich printed themselves lots of moneyStopped reading there.
You have no clue what you are talking about. The rich can no literally make money. They have zero control over monetary policy. They can't print money in any way shape or form.
No.298465
>>298464>They can't print money in any way shape or form.They can print art, bonds, "business equity", and shortstocks that are given an objective monetary value by certain people and groups. Digital currency applied to their accounts and then withdrawn as cash.
No.298467
>>298464The federal reserve bank literally loans infinte money out of thin air (at interest). All the government has to do is ask for more loans. The treasury prints the bills, bust most of it electronic rather than anything physical.
No.298470
a long time ago in japan an organization for the blind was created and they all get trained for jobs, most would shampoo people's heads, and all their money they make they send back to a sort of blind man's bank. and from this bank they get paid an amount they can survive off until the day they die
wish we had some sort of wizard equivalent, but i dont trust other people so i would never contribute to it. maybe if crypto improves you could do something using smart contracts to programmatically create an equivalent that cannot be corrupted or abused by humans
No.298471
>>2984671. The Fed is a part of the government, controlled by the government and not by rich people.
2.the fed issuing "loans" to the government is not how rich people get rich nor under rich people's control
>>298465More proof you have no clue what you are talking about. Because what you just said is super dumb.
No.298472
>>298471The government is controlled by very rich people. If you can't see that, you're living in a fantasy world.
No.298476
>>298470I was thinking of running a cleaning company and talking to the welfare and disability organizations, telling them I'd drive around in a cleaning van once a week and give them a bar or a business to clean while nobody else was around. Just 2-8 hours of work a week for them. You can earn that much on top of welfare here, but a lot of people are too fucked up and neurotic to make the most of it.
I think a lot of shut in NEETs would appreciate one wizard like figure picking them up, giving them a simple job with nobody around to do, and having a bit of extra spending money.
I think this would be good for people with autism that don't hold jobs. I have autism myself so I'd be understanding. I'd make sure all the work was away from normies.
I think what stops normies from doing this is that business owners are greedy fucks and end up twisting the arm of disabled people to work more hours, or manipulate autists to work the worst jobs because they're too agreeable to say no. Plus welfare tries to bully these types off welfare the second they do any work at all.
No.298478
>>298476i hate to keep mentioning jap shit but i remember reading something like this in japan, i think it related to hikkis, like a rehabiliation or work-accustoming service. they do baby tier work and begin earning some money without much responsibility or effort on their part
No.298484
>>298472>The government is controlled by very rich peopleWhich is why they have to pay hundreds of thousands in taxes or be threatened with imprisonment or death.
Yup, sure seems like they are totally the ones in charge.
God you are retarded.
No.298494
I think the left need to vocally disavow trannies.
>>298484>Absolute retard thinks the rich pay the correct amount of taxes No.298495
>>298476>I think a lot of shut in NEETs would appreciate one wizard like figure picking them up, giving them a simple job with nobody around to do, and having a bit of extra spending money.fuck no
it wouldn't work without being heavily subsidized, and they already give that kind of work to legit downie retards, ex convicts, and other unemployables who are willing to do it for more than "2-8 hours a week"
No.298501
>>298495the main deterrent for me working is having to drive a fucking car and deal with car ownership. cities should just offer this as a service for people without cars. i am of no use to my local town sitting around home. the money they get from taxing my income would more than pay for the rides. maybe. i dont know. the gap between rural towns and places with public transport and walkable cities here in the us is so fucking soul crushing
No.298525
>>298501Dude seriously just move to a walkable city then. They aren't exactly rare. I don't know why you're scared of cars. I'm living out of mine at the moment and it hasn't needed anything in the past few years but a new tire, an oil change, new wiper blades, and once in a while some more fuel (obviously).
I've been through periods where I've not used my car at all for like a whole year, and that isn't always in a walkable city but rather just one where like maybe I use public transport once a week for cheap booze and maybe something else that isn't inexpensive locally, and then I don't have to bother paying for auto insurance etc.
No.298526
>>298525i'm not afraid of cars, i just hate them and refuse to participate in car culture or involve cars in my life in any way. if i had an online job or something i would consider moving, obviously so far i've found nothing
No.298527
>>298526Why hate them? Have cars wronged you in some way? I spend more time hating how worn through my shoes are because now my feet get wet when it rains or snow and then it makes my socks smell like I'd rather pack my nose with rancid meat.
No.298530
>>298527>Have cars wronged you in some way?Not him but yes
I mean cars are the leading cause of death for people below the age of 50 for a reason.
Sage because getting farther and farther away from politics.
No.298541
>>298525>Dude seriously just move to a walkable city then. They aren't exactly rare. In some countries it is prohibitively expensive to live in those places
No.298543
>>298541>walkable cities are pohibitivle expensiveokay then don't live in one. why make this so difficult?
No.298557
I thought this thread was about politics and not giving some loser life advice.
No.298571
>>298557the government has the power to change the gay zoning bullshit where cities and towns simply allow developers to construct a half million houses in the middle of fucking nowhere. things don't have to be this way and you can easily make it political by understanding all forms of government are somehow complicit in continuing this car dominated bullshit
No.298574
>>298484The very rich write off their taxes as charitable contributions, and can find sinecures anywhere. By paying the state they are paying themselves. You do understand what the state as an institution is, right? It is suited the rich to hold their wealth collectively, they could easily do that. The moment the state is alien to the oligarchs is the moment they start destroying that part of the state. That's the basic principle of a fascist country, and we live under fascism.
No.298582
>>298571>you can easily make it politicalAnd yet you don't.
No.298583
>>298574Now I know you are trolling.
No.298584
>>298494>I think the left need to vocally disavow trannies.I will die on the hill that this tranny shit that has enveloped geek culture is a psyop to pacify the last group of people who might have had revolutionary thought.
No.298585
>>298583Get your head out of the sand.
No.298586
>>298585Get your head out of you ass and into a book.
No.298587
>>298586You clearly haven't read anything if you think the government isn't rigged for the benefit of economists, retard.
No.298588
>>298584The internet collapsed after Occupy. The Arab world had already overthrowing. Gaddafi got knifed up the fucking ass. TBTP were shitting bricks for sure. The first world was on the brink of dragging billionaires through the streets. You know shits real when even basement dwellers crawled out of their dungeons to camp in front of the ivory towers. Then as if a switch flipped any hint of anarchism vanished. What was an ever present fixture of the world wide web got memory holed while this left right schism took hold of the zeitgeist. They do not fight the system anymore but each other.
No.298589
>>298584>geek culture >last group of people who might have had revolutionary thought.LMFAO 🤣
No.298590
>>298587From that statement the two conclusions I come to is that
1. You don't know what a economist even is
2. That you are just playing the fool for attention because no one can sincerely be this consistently stupid as to be compoundingly wrong about everything they say, as to make it seem like the responses are tailored to be wrong in every way possible.
No.298591
>>298590Ah, I see the faggot is taking the semantic and "ur jest wrong n dumb n smell" route because it is incapable of outright admitting to itself that it doesn't have a single fucking clue as to what it is discussing. I will call an ultra-wealthy businessman an economist if I so please. Yes, you have to be legally retarded to think the rich are paying their fair share in taxes and not looking for every way to avoid taxes altogether, even going as far as influencing policy toward favorable climates for themselves.
Willful retards like you deserve to be exploited by plutocrats, I suppose.
No.298604
>>298591>I will call an ultra-wealthy businessman an economist if I so pleaseSo you choose to be wrong on purpose.
Lol. At least you are somewhat funny in your blatant willful ignorance.
Obviously I ain't taking you seriously, but if it means so much to you you can have the last word while continuing to make a fool of yourself.
No.298607
>>298604You only resign from the conversation on semantic terms because you have no further arguments. My first reply to you was telling you to get your head out of the sand, so you just look stupid to multiple people.
No.298620
>>298591Are you suggesting people who aren't rich aren't also looking for any way to avoid taxes? Are you saying poor people are poor because they're too stupid to manage their own finances? Social Darwinism is a popular thought, even if it might not be the only thought a guy should have.
No.298622
>>298620Some broke retard dodging the IRS isn't remotely equivalent to Richie Rich sculpting the whole system in his favor. The original argument was that the rich pay their fair share in taxes. They plainly don't and they also fuck everyone else over at the same time.
No.298624
>>298622>The original argument was that the rich pay their fair share in taxes. It wasn't and you can re-read the thread as much as needed for you to understand that.
No.298634
>>298633Why are you arguing with a guy who bats for jewish businessmen?
No.298635
>>298634What you said makes no sense in context as no one was arguing for or against jews.
Quit making shit up.
Hell, no one was really arguing for or against business men ether.
One was arguing that rich people are basically omnipotent (as a bad thing in context) and another argues they aren't and instead that the government has more power.
Now you come bumbling in defaulting to "da juwz" like a fucking retard because you can't be bothered to pay attention.
No.298650
>>298589You laugh but it's true.
No.298654
>>298650Maybe you can try explaining it in a way I could take seriously, because on the face of it it sounds ridiculous.
No.298655
>>298643Fox/Tucker mentioned it.
Along with a fuck load of terrorist attacks on trains that nobody seems to care about, attacks on the electrical grid, attacks on the water supply, and mysterious destruction of food production.
Lot of shit is going on and the country is full on under attack yet no one is doing anything about it. No one cares since it isn't politically useful.
No.298677
I've grown disgusted by rich chinks in my city, they just consume and consume, every inch of their body covered in designer wear, don't speak english, where the fuck is Chairman Mao when you need him.
No.298679
>>298677Canadian, Australian?
Where are you talking about?
Otherwise there isn't room to discuss politics, like immigration policy, and it's just a racist brainfart.
No.298691
>>298677Average rich third world immigrants behavior
No.298700
>>298677They're a model minority… until you actually trying living with them
No.298705
>>298679UK.
I'm not racist. I'm not even right-wing. It's just wild to see a people with no other quailty than consumerism. I know they don't represent regular working class chinese, but they're so crystalline in their consumption; they don't seem to work or do anything other than buy whatever is trending.
No.298710
>>298705They're either the rich people the commies purged a long time ago who wanted to get their shit back, or they're the failsons of the CCP who want to come to America to party and shit.
Of course this is represented in major cities and professional class. There are working class Chinese immigrants and descendants and they run the gamut of stereotypes. With a lot of them though, they're ex-capitalists who were friendly with the China Lobby assholes and their associated allies around the world.
>>298584The tranny shit has a lot of money behind it and powerful forces with a very particular agenda. It's being put up as the culture war "null issue" when they can't engineer a shooting or crisis to justify the shit they really want. Anything to get more eugenics in the discourse. That's all it really is.
Sexual politics in general is the most gigantic op in human history, and again, it ties into eugenics more than anything else. It's not a reaction to the threat of the masses, but an aggressive pre-emptive move to engineer peoples' most basic behaviors. They pretty much guaranteed revolution was an impossibility after the 1940s.
No.298714
>>298643I live 40 miles from where it happened. The town and its vicinity looks fucked but I doubt it will affect much further than that. The Ohio is already full of all kinds of nasty shit one more dose of toxins won't make a difference. Not that I'd mind all the normalfags around me dropping dead.
No.298752
>>298745Wow, that's a real article.
No.298853
im against handouts because i don't receive any of it. niggers and succubi get first dibs on every fucking god damn handout and there is never anything for anyone else. it makes sense to give them money, i get why they do it, they just vomit it up consuming stuff and it's basically a stimulus for big businesses. but for a white neet without bux, such handouts and benefits are but a dream
No.298862
>>298746That investment chief is retarded then.
That isn't how inflation works. "Millennials" didn't/can't print trillions of dollars, the current political administration did/can.
No.298969
>>298853I'm guessing you live in a right wing country like America?
Here in Australia we get pretty good bux, we even got a left wing government after years who finally raised it for everyone. Economy hasn't died like right wingers always proclaim it would. I'm glad I don't live in AMerica where they suck rich fat guys like Trump's dick
No.299239
>>298710>failsons and exilesI suspected as much. My city man, my city, is just a playground for the rich now. I don't see any worry on their faces despite the multiple crises facing the wageslave plebs. They just worry about virtue-signalling about how (socially) liberal they are.
No.299258
eat the rich