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All you need to begin drawing is a pencil and some paper

Feel free to post any drawings of yours in this thread. Illustration, doodle, traditional, digital - anything goes. Discussion on skillbuilding techniques and fair critique of other wizards' work is welcome.

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 No.62684

nice, very nice

 No.62685

>>62683
cute tbh

 No.62686

>>62387
this looks fine wizzy. its a cartoon and has character. im not a fan of cartoons but this looks better than most.

 No.62689

>>62683
yes indeed. Now open a patreon and rake in the moneys

 No.62691

>>62689
Yeah I wish I could but I can still only copy other peoples artwork and not make anything of my own design sadly. I've been trying on and off to learn to draw since last November but I still haven't found a way to learn creativity or motivation to be so.

 No.62698

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numbers are order i made them in

 No.62700

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Is it just me, or drawing (maybe even all creative hobbies in general) is just a source of endless anxiety and stress? At least for autists like myself. I don't mean when you just doodle a bit just to relax, but when you actually put effort and try to improve. I've been drawing for two years, with occasional breaks because of frustration with myself, and still I'm yet to draw something that I wouldn't cringe at. I draw and sketch and paint and it all looks like shit to me. I can't really post it online because whenever I do I end up cringing too much at the thought of it being there and delete it afterwards. I've tried quitting drawing, but I just can't! I keep coming back, trying to learn, trying to draw everyday, have fun with it only to face crushing despair, even if I finish something. It is like having the eye to criticize but having no fucking idea, no skills to actually make things right. That begs another question - how the fuck do you actually learn? All those fancy artists of all sorts who make crazy money of their stuff - how in the actual fuck did they get there? Of course, some have been doing that since childhood, have education and whatnot, but there are also great
hobbyists and self-taughts. But how?
Anyway, I just frustrated to no end with myself. Reading a book called Atomic Habits and it says that to achieve success you've gotta be constant, and that nothing happens over night. Feel like that is a bunch of crap, but I am too stubborn to let it end like this and will just continue this cycle until I die.

 No.62701

>>62700
Maybe you should spare effort and just draw sketches? I myself have no desire to make polished art. I like to draw fast. I don't want to take the time to make little details. >>62698 and >>62616 are mine.

 No.62702

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>>62700
It just takes a lot of mileage. Make a lot of stuff, and keep trying to make the next thing better than the last.
It's easy to be caught in a negative feedback loop where you want to make beautiful things so when you try and fail you feel discouraged and thus don't draw anything which prevents you from improving which means the next time you try you won't be any better than before and you'll just keep going in circles like that. I got through that, and I assume others got through that, by not stopping just because the drawing was bad, but rather drawing MORE. Taking your failure as a sign that you need to practice more if you want to achieve the desired result is the winning mindset. It's all mileage and iterative improvement.

I'm self-taught, have been drawing for almost 9 years now, and for the first 3 years or so most of the drawings looked like crap to me. I look back at them now and the drawings I hated were generally better than I remembered and the drawings I was proud of were worse than I remembered. Point being, you're not an objective critic when you're so close to your own work. So stop trying to judge your own skill and just focus on making lots of drawings, and making the next one better than the last.

I'm also of the opinion that while study might be good in the long run, you should focus on making things that you want to make. It's much easier to improve when it's for the immediate goal of conveying an idea that you want to convey now in the drawing/painting in front of you than for the abstract motive of improving for a drawing/painting for ideas somewhere down the line.

>>62701
You've got to practice the thing you want to do if you want to get better at it. Can't complain that you can't make a good finished piece if you never finish your pieces.

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>>62702
You make a comic or that is just one picture? I like that mangaesque graphic style.
> It's all mileage and iterative improvement.
Yeah, that is what I have began to realize, it is a matter of grind rather then big sudden pushes. Although there are things I doubt that can be learned from iteration alone. Like those fancy rendering techniques and theory of color.
>>62701
Sketches are fun, but they are just not enough to get where I would prefer to go. I've got a dream to make a sort of graphic novel some day.

 No.62705

>>62703
>You make a comic or that is just one picture? I like that mangaesque graphic style.
I make comics primarily, but yes that image is just a standalone.
>Although there are things I doubt that can be learned from iteration alone. Like those fancy rendering techniques and theory of color.
Indeed, and such things can be learned by watching quick tutorials and/or observing others. Just don't get wrapped up in trying to seek out hidden knowledge, because there's nothing that will instantly make you better at drawing if you don't already have the requisite skills to apply that knowledge right away.

 No.62708

Drawing was a waste of time and energy. I should have never listened to Talent deniers and better practice sports or atleast hit the gym.

 No.62709

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the gods mock the ungifted and torment the talented

 No.62711

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>>62686
Are we watching the same image? it's utter garbage.

 No.62713

>>62691
>only copy other peoples artwork and not make anything of my own design
isnt that like atleast 80% of all artists? Besides you gotta start somewhere. Make your copys, improve to referenced pieces and then do your own while collecting as much money you can on the way

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first painting since grade school i think. it was fun, i have 5 more boards i can practice on

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 No.62744

>>62743
pantsu

 No.62745

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gesture drawings

 No.62746

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>>62745
scrapped one, made a few more

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>>62711
im being serious when i say i think white people should be banned from drawing. they're incapable of picking up a pencil without drawing an ugly nigger.

 No.62749

>>62747
Not all white people are californites.

 No.62750

Are there any successful wizards here that actually manage to get payed for their art? It seems like it requires a lot of interactions with the normalscum and faking a persona online to promote your shit. That is a dreadful thing. What was your road to success?

 No.62751

>>62750
>manage to get payed for their art?
I do.
>It seems like it requires a lot of interactions with the normalscum and faking a persona online to promote your shit
Unless "constantly posting shit that makes it impossible to professionally associate with you" is your personality, not really. Simply not posting anything but artwork is an option, no "faking a persona" required.
>What was your road to success?
Made stuff, found an ad looking for an artist, showed them the stuff I made and then they hired me.

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>>62750
i don't know anything about professional art ie. with a corporation.
Assuming you're talking about independent commission art on FA, DA, Twitter etc:
ive investigated this topic and been a customer myself a hundred times for years.
theres no such thing as a indie commission artist success story except for a top 0.1% of people, just like any other medium. Note also that that top percentile on FA, DA etc. work more hours and have less of a life than a wageslave.
ive attached a post i wrote on the topic a few months ago if you want more details.

 No.62753

>>62751
Are you self taught or a pro with a degree and history of drawing since childhood?
>>62752
Interesting but depressing. But also I think the way you define success could differ. For me that would be around 200$ a month, since I live in a third world where you can live quite well on that money.
All those sakimichans and tarakanoviches are indeed 0.1%, however, i've looked at patreon data for artists and there are quite a lot of not so skilled artists that make the amount i'd like to have. But how the hell did they get there in the first place? Most aren't even NSFW. Maybe that indeed requires being a social parasite and leech off communities of weirdos, I don't know.

 No.62754

>>62753
$200 a month is doable as a twitter/FA degen, so long as you're capable of uploading very consistently without ever missing an upload schedule. On the internet, time moves so fast that a week is a month and people will forget you. you need 2 full color uploads a week to keep the Follows coming and the commissioners' attention on you. The smart artists actually reject private commissions("please don't upload this" shit) because their long-term money comes from uploading all of their art and staying relevant. drawing something that doesn't go up on your page immediately hurts your business.

Your 2 uploads a week need to be one of three things:
- porn
- Nintendo fanart. im not joking
- a unique and memorable OC that you should consider your business mascot

you can mix these together as needed. do those in between commissions. you do this consistently, two times a week, for a year, and you would almost definitely make over $200 a month.

 No.62755

>>62754
Thanks for the tips. Twitter is a such a cesspool though.
>porn
Understandable. Soulsucking, but understandable.
>Nintendo fanart
This I don't get. Why is it such a big thing? I get thirst posting of the latest videogame succubi or something similiar, but nintendo shit?

 No.62756

>>62755
i dont know why but nintendo fans are the only ones who consistently buy art, and their presence is very overwhelming on the internet. nintendo is only becoming more popular by the day. Maybe it's because of its antiquity.
tekken fans, for example, maybe 1 in 30,000 will commission a dakki as a joke or get a custom piece done for their fight stick. Other fanbases are not even 1% as sustainable as pandering to nintendo fans.
nintendo is also so recognizable that even non-fans at least know all the characters, and will give your fanart a Like.

 No.62757

>>62756
I might roll with that, though I never had a nintendo in my life and never played anything aside from Three Houses on pc with emulator. What kind of commissions they are requesting? What nintendo games are the hottest shit out there?

 No.62758

>>62753
>Are you self taught or a pro with a degree and history of drawing since childhood?
Self taught, started when I was 17 right after finishing high school (26 now). Before then I think I drew stick figures way back in 5th grade or thereabouts, but that's about it.

>>62754
Don't make the mistake of thinking you need a big online following to make money from commissions. I was getting ~100 USD a week just from posting my sheet in the /aco/ commission thread+discord, which I heard died recently. You don't need a big following to get comms, just show good work for good prices in a place where people who are looking for somebody to commission will look. It's when your art sucks that you have to do the soulcrushing fake persona bullshit, because you have to sell something other than just your skill.

 No.62759

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Since I'll not be finishing this I might as well post here before forgetting about it.

 No.62762

>>62749
I am not from California yet I used to draw as bad if not worse, I think I am white but people here would differ. Now that people hate cartoons more than ever there is no reason for me to draw ever again, it's been more than two whole monts now, nowt even a small abstract doodle.

 No.62763

>>62762
Be the change you want to see. Instead of boohooing about race or whatever whenever other people make drawings you don't like, draw something YOU can enjoy.
>Now that people hate cartoons more than ever there is no reason for me to draw ever again, it's been more than two whole monts now, nowt even a small abstract doodle.
Read >>62702. How can you expect to improve if you give up every time you fail? Do you think anybody just magically draws masterpieces without ever picking up a pencil? No, they draw hundreds and thousands of pieces of shit to produce a handful of diamonds. Even the people who draw stuff you hate went through their own journey to get where they are, and the only reason you know about them is because instead of throwing down their tablet with piss in their pants they gritted their teeth and kept going.
Now if you want to quit then quit but don't keep coming back to dwell on it.

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some shit over the past month of drawings when i'm too paralyzed to work on portfolio work
>>62759
i think that's wonderful wiz. is that figure supposed to be some statue in the background?

 No.62766

>>62763
The reason I keep coming back again is because people still deny that Talent is real and is genetic. Thats why whites only draw shitty Calarts while the Japanese can easily make Anime even in their early youth, that is the reason I mentioned race.

 No.62767

>>62766
I'm white and I don't draw calarts shit.

 No.62768

>>62766
man the retardation you see here

 No.62769

how are you falling for bait this easy. if i dangled my fucking car keys in your face i could probably distract you long enough to rob your whole house

 No.62770

>>62766
If you're White, write Wizchan 2022 on your arm and post pix

 No.62771

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>>62767
this is what people mean when they say "i dont draw calarts". lmao

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 No.62774

>>62771
>Manga
>green one looks straight out of fairy odd parents.

 No.62775

>>62772
holy fuck i was exactly right.

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 No.62779

>>62771
The entire field of Japanese animations was directly inspired and modeled after Disney animation you dolt. Go look up the early career of Osamu Tezuka.

 No.62780

>>62779
Disney used to trace literally everything. They call it rotoscoping.They also had mostly Asians do the tracing because they were too retarded to even trace. Sounds like you're the one who needs a history lesson, calarts cope master.
Either way, fact of the matter is, American artists are obsessed with ugliness and Japanese aren't.
Minions and shrek VS. sanrio. It's been this way for a long time.

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>>62780
Calarts comes off natural to me since I am white, believe it or not, I used to draw cartoon network shit like PPG and Dexter's Laboratory on my elementary school books.

 No.62784

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>>62714
some more, it is good fun but kind of a money sink if you are a neet. no wonder people sell their art… digital art is infinitely more forgiving and affordable

 No.62786

>>62783
wew. How does one make left and avoid right if you're not a sliteye?


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