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>>53822Thread for games you managed to finish and your thoughts on it.
No.58480
>>58064dungeon crawlers make me wish for game that is just a massive labyrinth filled with traps and secrets, similar to deathtrap dungeon/minecraft but without monsters. exploring the mines of moria in lotro is closest thing to ultima underworld and arx fatalis, by exploring I meant getting lost down there.. moria is just massive :/
No.58536
>>58481>>58481>Ico>there isn't a lot of reason to replay itQuotes like that makes me remember that We, as human being, are really different from each other.
I beat ico almost 6 times, i really think the ending is the main reason that hooks me to this game until this day.
The feeling of mystery makes me want to keep searching for something i'm not sure what about really is.
The beach, the peace of mind, the symbolysm on it.
All of that makes me praise and feel comfy about it.
No.58538
>>58536Honestly, I'm kind of a jaded faggot so pay me no mind. I probably would have gotten more out of it if i had played it in my teens. I will replay it at some point though.
No.58539
>>58536>>58538Video games are kinda sad like that, as once you tend to get jaded and cynical exploration doesn't intrigue you because you know it's a video game, it has limits, and can only ever include stuff the devs thought include. I remember exploring pikmin as a kid and feeling genuine fear and excitement going into caves cause the stakes felt real. But as an adult I don't care if I lose my pikmin they're just game pieces, and caves don't scare me cause they are limited and can be solved.
No.58545
Mass Effect
cool game. my brother played it on xbox when we were younger. i thought it was just a weird star trek movie-game type of thing and was too autistic to enjoy games with 'story' so i never tried it out
really wish i had played it when i was younger.
No.58546
>>58491I played the demo for this game (which is quite generous being like 3 hours long) and I appreciate what the game is trying to do but I just didn't like it. Having tons of choices in every single conversation is kind of cool but because it's mostly text based it almost feels like a choose your own adventure book at times, it kind of takes the 'oompf' out of making choices when it's all just dialogue boxes and static images.
Also paradoxically enough, I felt that because the game gives you so many choices at every turn it almost feels meaningless, but maybe that sounds retarded.
No.58596
>>58591i bought it
i felt like playing it at one point
but everything around the game, its "dirtbag left" fans, the politics, the pretentiousness, even the portraits..
it totally killed my interest.
No.58597
>>58591Every time I see a screenshot of this game I can never tell what the fuck is happening.
No.58599
>>58591Yeah the game is absolutely amazing, haven't played the complete version though (different voiceacting,more quests etc.)
No.58600
>>58597This is one of the more iconic screenshots
It happens at the very start of the game
You are living in a hostel and the owner asks you to pay
You can choose to run away
This is what happens if you fail the dice roll
You try to run away but end up crashing on some poor old lady in a wheelchair
>>58596>dirtbag left fansIf anything this game is a critique on communism, but like I said it's more of an art piece than a game and art tastes are totally subjective
No.58615
>>58596>even the portraits..i fucking hate the weirdly disfigured artsy style where nose, ears, etc are inflamed and red. remind me of succubi artists on deviantart back in the day. sorry. took one look at the guy in bottom left of pic and got flashbacks to a horrible time of the internet
No.58635
Finally finished Zelda: OOT.
About 20 years ago, not long after I got it, I had to box up my shit as I was transient/working for a long time. Within the past couple years, not only did I finally find a cheap place to live and finally settle a bit, I was able to recover and find boxes of my old stuff. Unfortunately, a lot got lost or probably stolen (a copy of "The Misadventures of Tron Bonne" which I see is worth nearly $1k or $2k now, which really eats me up), but fortunately I was able to recover a lot of games from my childhood that I never got to play due to shitty circumstances.
Even then though, I still wasn't able to play my old N64 games because it just wouldn't run anymore. But one day a couple months ago I just went at it with isopropyl for a long time out of desperation and…I guess I got lucky and got it working again. For the past couple weeks I've been playing Zelda: OOT.
It's such a bittersweet feeling because on the one hand I have these overwhelming sense of, "Shit, can I play videogames again finally? Is life really stable enough for me to be able to enjoy it a bit again?" combined with, "…this really would've had a lot stronger impact on me 20 years ago."/"This is kind of a slog as an older wiz."
I remember when I last played, I stopped after losing against the Bongo boss. Strangely, I don't remember having that difficult of a time in the water temple. Now in replaying the entire, I can see what happened: I beat water temple out of brute fucking force and spent FOREVER on it. By the time I got to the Bongo boss, I was so completely exhausted that I probably gave up. This time I was able to slowly stick to it.
Seeing this ending screen really hits me in a strange way. At first I was sad because I took it to me, "Alright, you spent 20 years waiting to play this again, and now it's done." Instead, now I find myself taking the ending that "Link returns to be a kid again" to a metaphorical meaning about my own life at the moment. Like it's the game telling me, "Hey, we've taken you back so you can be a kid again now and catch up on all that time you missed," and I find myself looking at the rest of the games I had in my old chest.
No.58637
Finished the last psx Tomb Raider, Chronicles.
Now I wouldn't say this game sucks like a lot of people, but it certainly is the worst of the original 5, by far. First of all it's really short, I've heard the game is something they made with leftover levels and it shows, levels are dull and uninspired. I has some weird stealth sections thrown in that are plain awful, I hate stealth when it's done halfassedly and oh boy this is a prime example of that.
The game is also riddled with bugs that can ruin your playthrough and softlock you, I gave up after a while and just used a guide because there is a lot of shit that is really hard to figure out, or times when stuff just didn't work as expected and you're left to wonder aimlessly like a retard.
The gameplay is thankfully still the same, and there is some nice platforming, although it's not very inspired, there are secrets to find that for some reason they decided to replace with golden roses, I prefer when secrets are actually useful shit like ammo and health.
My favorite part was the one on which you play as teen Lara, not because the level was amazing but because of the atmosphere and the cheesy demon dude.
I'd rather think of this game as a bonus, o b-sides of the first 4 games, and when you see it that way it's not so bad. I don't know of they charged full price for this at launch, but if they did, and they charged the same for this as 3 or 4 them I guess why do many people hate it
No.58654
Finished Castlevania: The Adventure Rebirth, the last effort by konami to make a classic style castlevania.
It is also a remake of the first game boy castlevania, now, I haven't played that game for more than 5 minutes so I can't attest to how faithful it is, but judging it as its own thing it's a great game, the music is all there, I mean it's the classic songs for the most part, but I won't complain because I love them. The levels are the usual castlevania fare (clock tower, dungeons, outside of the castle, caves, etc.) and the bosses are some of the usual suspects (giant bat, death, drac, some succubus) and a few not so common like hyde, some slime thing, a giant golem (my favorite), bosses feel simplistic to be honest, save for the last 2 fights (death and drac of course) which were pretty cool.
The game is difficult (or maybe I'm just really bad), the last boss had three phases and it took me a good two hours of retries to win, luckily the game has infinite retries, and this was on normal, I don't wanna imagine on hard difficulty.
I'd recommend this game if you're into classic castlevania, they did a really good job, sadly they stopped after this one, for some reason, and didn't remake the other game boy games.
No.58665
>>58655This is something i missed and have wanted to play for a while as well. The only thing i really know about it is that it was made by the rayman guy.
No.58670
>>58669I only found getting 100% the first time as a challenge, same thing with Crash 2, that one was way tougher. The time trials are what screw me up in the other games.
No.58680
>>58669one of the few good naughty dog games tbh
No.58838
Finished 2 in the past couple of day
First was Mega Man x4, not the first I started but the first I finished. I liked the first 3 mega man x games, but I wasn't sure about the generation change, you know, how they started putting more dialogue and video into them, luckily they kept that to a minimum. I loved this game, the bosses are all varied and fun, the stages are pretty diverse and don't get old, music is great as per usual in these games, difficulty is just right for me, but some people seem to think it's too easy, and it probably is the easiest of the first 4, except the final boss who took me a couple of hours to beat.
Other game was Evil Within, it's a competently made third person shooter, the game was marketed as a sort of successor of Resident Evil 4, and at times it does sort of feels that way, like a very cheap, walmart version of RE4. However, the plot and imagery seem more like something out of a cheap silent hill knockoff.
My main problem with this game is the lack of enemy variety (it's all juts zombies). Also the scenarios are alright, but from the get go you know what is going on, and I like a bit of mystery in my horror games. The first chapters take place in a resident evil 4-style village, and it kinda feels disconnected from the rest of the game, it occurred to me they made it so the trailer looks like that game, but I want to believe there's a better reason. The second to last level is a generic sewer level you'd expect halfway through the same, the level prior to that one feels way more like a final level, just weird decisions all around.
There's no survival aspect to this game, you get so much ammo you can just blast enemies with the shotgun, rifle or crossbow as you wish. It implements a "stealth" system, but it's stealth as it's used in modern games, the "crouch up to en enemy and push a button to kill them" stealth formula, pretty lazy and unimaginative.
I really disliked the final boss, I saved my magnum ammo for a last fight, and instead what I got was a bombastic sequence with QTEs and turret shooting, so I didn't fire a single mangum round in the entire game, I fucking hate that kind of shit, let me use the weapons I upgraded to take down the boss. All the bosses are generic looking meat creatures with tentacles, only the guy with a safe for head feels somewhat original, if we don't think about it being a pyramid head rip off.
The reason I started this game before MMX4 and finished it after is because it's fucking long (for a game of this type, of course), game is over 20 hours long and honestly it drags for a while, shouldn't be longer than 15, so I had to play something else because I was getting sick.
Anyway, play mega man x 4
No.58874
>>58838Finished Mega Man X5 now, twice actually because the first time I unknowingly played it on normal. Didn't actually feel a difference on the difficulty except for 3 things, first is enemies don't drop health pickups on hard, second is an attack on the last boss that hits way to hard and it's really tough to avoid and third there are way more enemies in some places.
Other than that, the game although good felt like a step down from X4, level design is more boring, for some reason they added hints that popup any time and are really annoying, there's a pseudo time limit that doesn't let you go in and out of stages any time you want, like in previous games. There's even more curscenes than in previous games, still not a lot by modern standards. I thought a couple of bosses were really annoying because all they did was try to push me into stage hazards that would instantly kill me, I hate that shit. Other bosses were pretty balanced and didn't turn trivial when I figured their weakness out, which I appreciate.
I'd say it's harder than 4, and did one or two things better, but 4 is still a better game.
No.58910
Ok so this was a big step down from the previous game.
Not only the levels are unimaginative, the are linear as fuck, the difficulty in this game consist in filling the levels with enemies so you end up dying due to the constant damage, sometimes it works, most times you can just boost your way through the level crashing into everything and finish the level. By work I mean sometimes they're hard, they're never really good, and never really fun.
Bosses range from easy as fuck to annoying bullshit, some just float there and spam projectiles, most are pretty cheeseable, one particular boss near the end completely depends of rng, he basically can be hurt only during certain attack and he can spend quite a few minutes not doing the attack.
There is this "nightmare" system that I don't really get, there are these humanoid things floating in every level (and I mean fucking everywhere) that chase you and hurt you, when you kill them they drop some orbs, which I guess serve as experience, but it only serves as an excuse to send you grinding, maybe there weren't that many of those fucks in normal mode, but who knows. Having the same kind of enemy everywhere gets really old, and they come in big groups sometimes, I don't really get what they were going for.
The sigma fight in this game is probably the easiest in any mega man X, but the boss before way pretty tough in my opinion.
I don't know, I wouldn't say it's bad, but mediocre as fuck, the game was rushed and it shows, the music and pixel art is still great, so there's that.
There are patches for x5 and x6 that supposedly solve a lot of issues, I'll have to try those, but I wanted to get the full experience the first time.
Now on to x7, which is supposedly an irredeemable piece of crap, but I guess we'll see.
No.58936
Alright, so yeah, I beat it. It's bad, don't play it.
Forced 3d ruins this game, some of the 2d stages are actually ok, but god damn it when it goes 3d it's awful, clunky controls, buster auto aim, terrible camera. Boss fights are tedious, they have way too much health and take forever to go down, even with their supposed weaknesses, for some bosses all the weakness does is stun them for a while, they also hit really hard, I think this is a way to mitigate how easy most of the patterns are to learn, because they end up being easy, just long fights, ironically the one boss where the weapons hit really hard is the last one, who has 2 bars and you can shave a quarter of one with a single attack, it's ridiculous.
Another thing to note is the awful voice acting, this was a constant in all mega man x games since 4 but it reaches an all time low on this game, I ended up fighting a lot of the bosses on mute, one of them stands up as probably the worst fight in the series, both mechanically and in the voice regard, I'll leave a clip in case you want to torture yourself, this isn't edited.
Anyway, 8 is supposed to be a return to form and a good game, I hope it is.
No.58963
>>58936Ok I'm done
Took me a while, it got difficult at times, especially the final boss.
It's a really good game to be honest, a return to form and whatnot, I liked most of the levels (except a couple of autoscrollers which I hated), graphics are fine but I wish they were sprites and not 3d models, music is always good with these games. The gameplay feels way smoother and fun than 7, way more fast paced too.
It's a shame they didn't continue the series because this game was definitely a step in the right direction.
No.58966
>>58910I sometimes get this perfectionist urge while playing, and not being able to save the people in the stages combined with the ranking system just made me quit.
>>58936Can you go into a bit more detail about the 3d? I remember before that game came out I wanted to play it because I heard about that. What made it so bad exactly? I mean, is it like Resident Evil tank controls?
No.58968
>>58966>Can you go into a bit more detail about the 3d? I remember before that game came out I wanted to play it because I heard about that. What made it so bad exactly? I mean, is it like Resident Evil tank controls?No, no tank controls, but it feels bad, it's slow and clunky, like early 3d playstation games, but 6 or 7 years later. It's hard to describe but if you play it you'll notice right away, also the auto-aim system works like ass, it rarely points where you need it too. And to top it off, the levels are just plain and boring, just long empty corridors with some enemies, it's boring as shit. Mega Man Legends came out before and plays better.
No.58969
>>58968Bro MML STILL plays better than most modern games.
No.58970
>>58969Sure, my point was, there was a good template for 3D mega man, why didn't they use it?
No.58981
>>58980I appreciate all your posts, I love mega man. You're gonna play 10 now? Planning to get into the Zero series?
No.58982
>>58981Yeah I'll probably play 10 and 11 next.
Regarding Zero I did play the first game years ago but couldn't really get into it, maybe I'll give it another go when I'm done with these two
No.58991
>>58982Zero 1 is honestly tough for anyone not familiar with his series and the smaller screen size thoroughly changes the core gameplay. Dashes are used as dodges instead of traversing the levels since you won't be able to react in time (unless you already know the level layout and enemies). Also the ranks are a pain, but I love Zero. I hope you'll try it again.
No.59006
>>58980Alright so I finished 10 now, pretty similar, pretty good. Maybe a bit harder? The levels, not so much the bosses, the final Wily fight is a joke though, maybe I'll take a break before 11 now, I don't wanna get burnt out.
>>58991Yeah I think my main problem with it is the same I have with most Game Boy games, and it's that sprites are comparatively too big, of course this is because of hardware limitations but on an emulator it shows. But I will give it another try, it's not like I hated it back then, I just kinda lost interest.
No.59072
Finished this game on Saturday and forgot to post about it, since its still fresh in my memory it was fairly decent
I played it on my PS5 since it's free to download in some PS+ collection
For a zombie survival shooter looter motorcycle riding "open world" sim, it was pretty good
My only complaints are that the story went on for too long AND that the weapon selection sucked ass
When it comes to the plot it feels like the game should end but then another plot happens, this keeps on repeating and at a certain point you start losing interest, fighting Zombie hordes and clearing zombie infested areas was fun at first but then you have to go gather and forage supplies to do it multiple times just for some fucking bike decal was so off putting
When it came to the weapon selection they had this stupid system where you'd find/purchase guns of better quality BUT then you'd own like 4 versions of the same gun, in different qualities, instead of just improving the quality of a gun you already owned, this is what pissed me off the most since I have no clue how anyone playtested that and was like "feels good to me", the whole point of getting a gun and having characters tell you that you can improve it but then not including that was so mind boggling bad
Overall its a game that I'll most likely replay in the future, maybe on a harder difficulty, I recommend checking it out if its on sale, the ONLY thing I recommend you do before getting deep in the main story is doing the optional challenge mode first, it lets you practice and you apparently earn rewards that help you in the main game (wish I knew that before unlocking the final area of the map)
No.59073
>>59070I actually hate a lot about Combat Evolved. Feels like half of most levels are mirrors since you just walk back through them. Besides the Breaking Benjamin gondola, I liked 2 a lot more. 3 had some pretty crazy parts too. I will say that Halo in general has nice bots. Wish you could play BTB with them.
No.59076
>>59070The newer FF games don't have random encounters. I think they did away with them starting with XIII.
No.59077
>>59076Are you a Final Fantasy fan. Are you guys okay with that random and annoying encounters? I had such big expectations since it's one the most famous game franchises.
No.59078
>>59077pokemon has it as well. it was a defining feature of jrpgs back in the day
No.59081
>>59077I actually prefer random encounters to having the enemies in the map, because sometimes I wanna grind for something and instead of resetting the map I can just walk in circles and get all the encounters I need
No.59082
>>59081I also like random encounters.
No.59083
>>59077Do not play the first Dragon Quest games lol, you can get a random encounter after taking a single step following a battle or entering/exiting a location.
No.59086
>>59083I'll make sure not playing this one. I'm actually a newbie in games. Had no idea JRPGs were like that.
No.59087
>>59086yeah im in the same boat, though i've tried. it sucks because those games have story, characters, a world to explore, but i simply cant handle the random encounter bullshit. it's a shame
No.59091
>>59086You can try more recent JRPGs who usually don't have random encounters.
You can also try Bravely default where you can change the encounter rate at any time on the fly, all the way down to 0% if you want.
No.59092
>>59087Why not just Gameshark it up then?
No.59094
>>59086>>59087Check out Lufia 2 maybe, or Earthbound.
No.59095
>>59094It sounds like they're straight up uninterested in the combat system. Which if that's the case, then you might as well just cheat and skip the combat entirely.
No.59096
>>59083I beat dragon quest 1 and 2 like last year or so and they're a lot more fun than modern jrpgs though. Frustration beats boredom.
No.59211
I finished Donkey Kong Country Returns
It's a modern reimagining of dkc I guess? You can tell they designed it to be played at a faster pace than the original SNES games. Graphics and music are great, my only issue with it is the stupid motion controls, you need to shake the controller to roll, and you roll a lot, along with other actions which also require you to shake. I don't know what they were thinking, I know they pretty much forced developers to have motion controls back in the wii days. Thankfully in an emulator you can just map the shake motion to a button, so it plays like a regular platformer, and it's pretty good, I don't know if I would've been able to play it otherwise. I've heard the 3ds version replaced the motion with a button too, so maybe play that one if you don't like emulators.
One thing I felt this game was missing were water levels, I know people hate them but in the old games some of them were good, and they're completely gone from this game.
There's also not a lot of animals to ride, just the rhino iirc, I don't remember if the first DKC had other animals, but I remember the others having spiders, parrots, snakes, and of course swordfishes, but since there aren't any water levels you can't have those I guess.
So I't a good game, there was some stuff missing, and it is a bit on the easy side, although I lost a lot of lives in the last few levels, but as something that came out out of nowhere in a series everyone thought was dead, it's very welcomed.
Supposedly Tropical Freeze is a better and more complete game (now with water levels), I tried it for 5 minutes and it controls like a normal game, no motion crap thankfully, so maybe I'll play that next.
No.59214
>>59213
I remember watching stream_wiz play this. Very entertaining game to watch played out.
No.59215
I played and finished Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc, my first visual novel type game; a battle royale with a bunch of students trapped in a school. I thought it was pretty good, enjoyed it a lot. I've basically never played around with the mystery or detective genre so it was all new to me, lots of twists and turns - someone more experienced could probably guess but I couldn't, made it pretty exciting. The characters and dialogue were fun, good character interactions and one liners helped by good VAs, though I don't love the character designs themselves - I looked up some beta concept art before they decided to make the game less dark and I vastly preferred the original designs, apparently they reworked the art style to be more cutesy and palpable because they didn't think it would sell which pissed me off, it's lame to hear someone's vision getting diluted by corporate faggotry, it was also meant to have a trust / distrust system which would change who dies and send you down alternate paths, instead this game is very linear and only has one alternate ending. I don't want to discredit the final product because I enjoyed it a lot regardless but this always happens with things I like, I can't help but focus on what could've been, seems like wasted potential for a more mature, more complex game, but maybe that's just a me issue; the released version still feels very bleak and hopeless (in addition to being cool and flashy) and this works well with the dark humour - maybe a darker edgier setting would've been too dull and the branching paths superfluous. The various reveals throughout each chapter do enough to keep the atmosphere sufficiently bleak so I think it still nails the themes it was going for.
The gameplay loop is good enough, before each murder you basically play a dating sim and learn about the characters, in the investigation stage you find clues (though it tells you where to look) and during the trial you dissect the evidence through a series of minigames and conversations to learn the truth - the rhythm one being my favourite, helped by the banger soundtrack. It's not a difficult game even on the hardest settings but it's fun trying to work things out and it helps the writing is fairly clever, though more agency to make mistakes and more meaning to who I choose to befriend would've been welcome - I initially thought I could miss clues and accuse the wrong people, you can't, the game will set you back on the right track regardless. I didn't know what to expect so I wasn't disappointed, the story is still engaging and the characters still fun, so eh, just as a replayable "game" there's little room for player expression, but then it is a visual novel, and a pretty good one at that. It's a story I was engaged in from start to finish, I got attached to the characters, and each chapter was exciting - and this is coming from a game I had no prior knowledge of and decided to play on a whim, so a win-win, really I should be giving it more praise.
I'd probably give it a 7/10 - I'd recommend it if you want a dialogue heavy game that'll make you think and feel a bit that doesn't take itself too seriously (though maybe it'd be better if it did). If you enjoy battle royale situations or movies like Cube you'll probably like it. Oh, I also played the anniversary edition through xbox game pass but it's being removed in a couple of days so just a heads up.
>>59214Sorry for deleting my post, wanted to add more.
No.59216
i finished the rocket league tutorial
its a fun game its free and comfy
No.59218
>>58635So you're still playing more stuff from your old boxes? Your post almost makes me want to play video games again, it's been some time now I'm in one of my "Games are fucking shit" phase for the milionth time now, but your post makes me remember that games can mean something on a deeper level.
No.59220
>>59215it gets worse with every entry in the series. Rather amazed you didn't find the characters shit
No.59246
done with all the characters in Saga Frontier. Anyone else likes Saga? I'm glad I did not give up on Romancing Saga 2, it might not be the best entry to get started with the series…
No.59262
>>59246That game makes me feel dumb. I am so used to grinding levels that I do not understand how to beat that game. Also, LP are permanently lost, which adds another level of complexity that I do not understand.
I am too smol brain for Saga Frontier.
No.59263
>>59262You can swap a character low on LP for another one if this is a problem in a dungeon. Have you played Romancing SaGa 2 or 3? They were a lot more punishing, a character was lost forever if their LP got to zero, although they could be recovered a lot more easily in the latter. This is also the case in Frontier, I don't really understand what you mean by "permanently lost"?
It might click eventually if you keep playing. What character did you pick and how far did you go?
No.59275
>>59263But I thought the LPs never recover. Yeah, you get through _that_ dungeon, but by the next dungeon, you're fucked, right?
Also, I do not understand how to NOT grind. I need to learn combos, but in order to do that, I need to grind. But if I grind, by the time I enter the next area, the enemies will be WAY over my level and I'll die super easy.
I've played Asellus, the robot, Lute, and that magician guy. They all end the same way. The first world I'm O.K., but by the second area, everything's overlevelled and I die.
No.59276
>>59275No you're not fucked. As I said LPs do recover, just fly to another region or stay at the inn if there's one. If you happen to be in a dungeon that you cannot exit and find your main party low on LP, MP and JP right before a boss battle, you can use a sanctuary stone.
Combos are only really necessary for one boss fight with one character, you will see when you get there. Besides that I never bothered much with finding new ones, I simply went with whatever was most convenient at any given moment…
Unlocking techniques and spells is a lot more important.
You do know you can flee most encounters, right? If enemies seem too dangerous just run away.
There's a lot of useful, concise info in the help menu if you haven't read it already.
No.59277
By the way I am puzzled you made it through four characters' stories and haven't figured that out by experience regarding LP, or are still struggling with mobs. You should have no problem now…
No.59280
>>59277I played the first area/intro of four characters, and I didn't get into the second area very far.
I also warned you that I am smol brain.
For real though, why do all the monsters get so buffed when you travel? Like I said, after traveling past the first area, everything gets crazy powerful.
No.59283
>>59280As I said you can flee most encounters, so run away if the enemies look too intimidating, and grab whatever treasure and money you can find. There are characters almost anyone can recruit as soon as you're free to fly anywhere, like Cotton the monster (Lab in Shrike), Rouge (Devin or Luminous) Emilia in Baccarat, the folks sitting at the bar in Scrap and so on.
I recommend going to Kyo and buying Mind Heal even for the characters who are not magically inclined so they have a way to heal in combat.
Guns can be very good, they scale with concentration and you can dual wield them with the akimbo skill equipped, there are also a few skills you can learn with two swords equipped in your weapon slots.
Make sure you always have a free skill slot on your characters so they can learn sword, martial arts and dodge techniques (that satisfying lightbulb animation). You don't need to worry about this with guns though, gun skills are acquired at the end of battle, it might be easy to miss that you unlocked one if you mash buttons when a fight's over…
No.59301
I finished Tales of Destiny
It was the first jrpg I ever played, almost 20 years ago, and one I started many times but for different reasons I couldn't beat, so this feels very nostalgic to me. The 90s anime art style, the beautiful pixel art and the great music, playing this was like going back to my childhood for a bit, but beating the game and seeing its flaws brought me back.
the game is far from perfect, even though I still love the music and art, the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired, I get that they tried to do something different than the general jrpgs, but the ai (both enemy and allied) is so braindead you can just spam the same attack and win all fights, even against the final boss. I never lost a fight (outside of a couple you're supposed to lose for plot reasons) and never even had to do come up with some sort of strategy or anything, the game is just too easy and the enemies too stupid, the only complication I ever had were some monsters that kept spamming spells, so I had to target those first to interrupt their attacks.
The plot is what you'd expect from every 90s rpg, ancient evil awakens, kid from bumfuck nowhere and a group of teenagers have to search for some macguffin and stop it, the final boss appears out of nowhere pretty much at the end of the game, and it's a generic giant meat monster, at times this game feels like it was written by an ai.
So yeah it's a decent game, carried mostly by its art and music, but nothing really to write home about, sorry kid me.
Posted in the wrong thread, reposting here
No.59303
>>59301You didn't want to play the Director's Cut version on the PS2 that was translated recently? maybe it's an improvement.
No.59305
>>59303Because of nostalgia mostly, but yeah, some people claim the remake has the best combat not only of these two but of the entire series. I might give it a try later.
No.59309
>>59220I decided to try out 2 and yeah it was more of the same except with a less believable scenario. I think I found the characters acceptable because it was novel for me (and my standards for amicable games are fairly low considering every other game nowadays makes me want to vomit) though I have no idea why there's such a large fandom - the characters are shit for the most part, but sometimes shit can be enjoyable, at least the first time around.
No.59311
>Want to post in this thread
>I've been playing Morrowind, Fallout 2, and a small collection of games for the past twenty fucking years.
>Still haven't moved on from them.
…I like your guys' posts, but I think I'll never be able to participate.
No.59312
>>59311Yeah it's hard to avoid replaying old but good games over and over again. Seeing the same sights, hearing the same sounds. it's human nature to be drawn back to home.
Let us know when you finish a quest!
No.59313
>>59311it's ok wizzie, I somewhat envy people who can just keep playing a game, I always get bored of whatever I'm playing after a while and have to look for something new, sometimes I spend months before finding something I can enjoy
No.59316
>>59311>and a small collection of gamesWhich ones? I'm curious.
No.59317
>>59316There are a few games that I feel like I'm always able to play, or that keep getting "rehashed."
E.g., SimCity. SimCity became SC 2k, 3k, SC 4, City Skylines, etc.. But for me, I don't really see the difference, so I can keep playing SC, and I always feel willing to pick it up.
Civ2 is another one. Yeah, they're up to Civ6 or 7 or whatever, but I remembering playing Civ3 and even Civ4 and thinking, "I don't really see the difference." And always kept playing Civ2. I do the same whenever I see any other 4X game.
Harvest Moon. Yeah, there's Harvest Moon: Whatever and its million titles. Yeah, there's Stardew Valley. But again, I don't really see the difference, so I kept playing Harvest Moon.
Morrowind, like I mentioned, might be different. There's so many mods and the game is so broken in such a fun way that I can play it forever. Yeah, there's Skyrim or Oblivion or even Fallout 3–but all those Bethesda games are so similar that I'm fine just playing Morrowind more.
Zelda a Link to the Past is another one. The whole "find the item to progress to get the next item" theme, especially with the randomizer, fits that itch for me. So when I played Zelda OOT or Skyward Sword or cetera, I just kind of felt like, "I've already played this game," and just kept replaying SNES Zelda instead.
Any new Metroidvania game just makes me want to go back and play the SNES Metroid instead.
If I feel like a platformer, just basic-ass NES Mario is fine for me. If I play any other 2D platformer, I just end up thinking/feeling, "I've already played this game," and lose interest and play NES Mario for a while again instead.
When I see a grand strategy game like EU4 or HOI4 or Viccy, I end up thinking, "This feels a lot like RotTK4," and I just end up replaying that over and over again instead.
Minecraft fits the same theme I'm talking about here. Then again, Minecraft doesn't have an "ending".
Does this idea make sense? I guess the idea I'm getting at is that enough games seem so repurposed to me that I feel alright replaying the "older version" again and again than getting the "new" one. It feels like people trying to get the latest model of car if we lived in a world where cars didn't break down over time. Although for a small period I tried to "keep up," after a while, this devolved into where I'm just playing the same games over and over again. I'll see a new game and think, "Oh, it's just like X," and I'll go back and play X over again instead. Either that, or I already have in my head the "model" game for each major "genre," and replay that "model" again instead.
This is also probably why I like really open world or sim games. If you're playing the same games over and over again, those are the ones that allow the most freedom or experimentation to do whatever the hell you want.
There is a different category of games as well. Some games I end up replaying just…really weirdly, I guess? Like for example I'll sometimes "replay" my old save files of Earthbound or FF7, but I'll like ignore the story (because I already unlocked everything in the game) and end up making up my own? Now that I'm trying to explain and write this out, it's kind of like playing with dolls. I think that's how I get my "rpg" fix or whatever.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
No.59319
>>59318that looks way better than the first one on ps1. thats all i played. how are the controls?
No.59320
>>59318I remember dying in the first 5 seconds of that game. Fell right into the lava pit at the beginning because I didn't see it. Made me laugh.
I've never been able to force myself to play it properly though. Maybe a few hours at most. It just feels too "slow" for me, and I do enjoy janky old games more than modern stuff so it's definitely not that. Grats on finishing it
No.59335
>>59319The controls are the same, but turning speed is slower than the previous games
>>59320I can understand that. The opening hours of the game are among the most challenging as you have no weapons and no health, and thanks
No.59386
Finished 2 games
>Tomb Raider Legend
I come from playing the playstation games, and this is nothing like those, of course graphics are better and thankfully it works great on modern computers. Gone are the tank controls and with them the precision platforming, the old games were unforgiving, a pixel off and you're dead, in this game Lara seems to have magnets in her hands and just jumping in the general direction of a ledge will have her grab it (sometimes you have to press an extra button!), there are cutscenes with QTEs, but not so many so I won't complain, it was a time when every game needed to have QTEs it seems, so I was prepared for them. Levels are way too linear, old games gave you a big level to explore and find secrets, exploration in this game is pretty much non existent, levels are just a straight path with some platforming. Platforming in this game feels way more similar to the ps2 Prince of Persia games, but I feel like those had way more interesting level design. The combat is not great, but it was never great for this series, and puzzles are your usual push the thing to the place and something will happen, not very creative, but whatever.
Overall I'd say it was ok, not great but competent and easy as fuck, sadly the original psx games will never be matched.
>Scratches
It was good, I never played Myst or Riven and whatnot so it was my first first person point and click graphic adventure game. It's also a horror game and honestly it's amazing how it creates this oppressive and unnerving atmosphere just using music and the graphics, even when you know nothing can happen to you because it's a fucking point and click game, of course. Unlike other games in this genre it uses panoramic 3d rendered images to give the illusion of 3d, being able to rotate the camera as if it was a first person shooter, and it works seamlessly, honestly this looks really good for a 2006 game. Like I said before the atmosphere in this game is better than most games I've ever played, it takes place in an old run-down manor and there's enough shit thrown around to make you feel like you're digging through some old person memories, I think what sells it is the amount of stuff that has nothing to do with the game's progression, it full of papers you can read, paintings, photos and just random stuff that paint a picture of the people who lived there, just for worldbuilding I guess. The music and sound design in general is amazing, it doesn't fit the mood, it creates the mood, some parts feel very nostalgic, others sad, and others plain unnerving, it's amazing how it can make you nervous while playing a glorified power point. The plot is good, of course there's a mystery in the house and you will unveil it in just the right pace, as you advance and find more documents that shed light on what's really going on, the problem with that is that the ending is lackluster, one of those endings that makes you say "that's it?". Progression in this game is kinda weird sometimes, you have a clock, but not in real time, it advances as do certain actions, some puzzles require you to solve them at a certain time, even if it's obvious what to do, also some of them you can't solve unless you read something or see a picture, which I guess it makes sense in the game's world, but it can be frustrating knowing what to do and not being able to do it because you didn't read a letter or made a phone call, or it's just not the right time.
Anyway, Scratches was pretty good, probably the best atmosphere of any horror game I've played, and in a point and click adventure nonetheless, supposedly there's a "spiritual sequel" in the making, but it has been like that for like ten years. This is a small Argentinian studio so it's understandable, so I'm not holding my breath waiting for a new game.
No.59499
Just finished Maptroid Worlds. It's one of those games that makes me feel in control, and I mean that in the most fundamental sense. Maptroid feels very compact and clean, its gaming concepts and visuals are stripped down to very fundamental levels. So here you are exploring this tiny "golf course galaxy", it's devoid of life and you're the only one there, exploring these little planets, collecting equipment and keycards so you can explore some more. You pick up disks along the way to read some very basic lore about the place. Music is really, really good. And then, about an hour later you explored everything. 100% done, little credits role, you're back to the title screen.
And that's it, really, a bite-size experience. It's very relieving in a way to experience Maptroid. Just you, a nice tune on the background and running around for ruined disks in thick forests, underwater and rocky deserts. It's not a nostalgic feeling exactly, but if you're kinda old by now and your infancy games were all 2D and much simpler than they're today, this might hit just right for you. I thinking about people that grew up with GB, GBC and Nes in particular.
I quite like this tune of it
>>59498 No.59500
>>59499that looks pretty nice, gonna give it a try
No.59518
>>59516I 100%'d it. I'd say it's in a similar vein to the newer Assassin's Creed games. Not really worth a replay, but not necessarily bad.
No.59520
>>59519yeah those games are a lot of fun. havent played em in years tho. too many things i havent beaten even once.
No.59521
>>59519Heh, I do that too, but with Mystical Ninja Goemon, also for the n64. I play it like I'm a tourist in that world, taking several screenshots like a tourist would take pictures. I remember I posted all of them from one of my runs 2 or 3 years ago here.
No.59526
>>59521i remember you doing that, or at least the screenshots from the game getting posted here
neat
No.59569
>>59519>>59520These were favourites when i was a kid and i haven't replayed them since but i notice that they seem to be one of those games people love to shit on and i have no idea if it's actually warranted.
No.59610
This is a classic dungeon crawl game with the ‘you move they move’ type of system. It’s a basic one at that but it works. Along the way you’ll collect herbs, scrolls, staffs, food, weapons and building materials, but more of that later. Weapons come in a huge variety since you can combine their magical properties, the seals, using a special item called synthesis pot. The weapons you have are the most enduring aspect of your character since everything else you carry are consumables. Even your levels reset at the end of each run. That’s how it works in this game; there are 16 floors with one stop at the middle of the path. Once you enter the dungeon you can only return to the village with your stuff if you beat all the floors. You can choose to go back before that but you’ll lose your items by doing so. At the end of the run your level resets to 1 again, making your weapons particularly important and valuable.
There are over 160 types of monsters lurking the corridors and rooms of Shiren’s world and they really make the crawling varied and interesting. They go from your basic slime that in this game kinda looks like a cat, all the way up to magic users, demons and heavily armored spiders. They can also evolve and gain levels and even the slime can become pretty tough if you find them in their more powerful forms. The monsters are not the only thing you have to worry about while adventuring. Often you’ll find traps on the ground and here’s my only complaint about this game.
Traps are plentiful, interesting and some have very cool animations. The problem is you’ll have to step on them, even if you can clearly see where they are. This game happens in a grid and sometimes you’ll have a trap right inside a corridor with no way of walking around it. Shiren can’t jump tiles and the only way to deactivate traps is by destroying them, but you need a particular weapon for that, a mallet, and you only run into those very, very, very late into the game. To add salt to injury, they eventually break, so even mallets are not a permanent solution to this. Basically you’ll be walking right into traps that you can clearly see and that always makes me a little annoyed. The other problem I have with the traps game is how to detect them: you swing your sword in front of you and if there’s a trap there, it will show up. Sounds simple enough, but swinging your sword takes a move. That means the game gets twice as slow if you’re swinging your weapon after every step you take, making trap detection a very dull, time consuming chore. There are some spells that reveal the location of traps but I felt those spells are rare to come by. Best solution is to just walk right into them and take the damage. Only a few traps are truly dangerous so you’ll be able to deal with the damage 99% of the time.
To help you on your quest you’ll find companions along the way and they add some interest to the gameplay, but their main function in the game, I believe, is how they’re involved in the story. You’ll find a total of 5 buddies to join you as you progress to the game. Some of them have their own special abilities, some are pretty much like you and you can even give them equipment. The only really useful one in my opinion is the walking drawer that can help you with carrying items. This is a major aspect of Shiren 2: what to carry and what to leave behind. To talk about your inventory I have to explain to you the plot a little bit.
So you’re Shiren, a type of wanderer warrior that goes around helping people. One day you and your friend Koppa, a talking weasel, end up in a village at the foot of a mountain. You go in for a nice bowl of udon and while you’re enjoying your meal demons attack. Apparently this is going on for a while and after a little bit of talking to the local prophetess and the mayor, Shiren receives the task of building a castle to protect the villagers from the attacks. Due to plot convenience, at the summit of the mountain there lives a group of castle builders… bear with me here. Those guys can make really good castle parts, but they need building materials, more specifically, 5 of them, that would be soil, water, wood, rock and iron sand. And, you guessed it, you can find that stuff by going inside the mountain where the dungeons are, and collect all that stuff as you go up the mountain. That’s how the story justifies the gameplay and it’s done rather well. Not that you needed a particular excuse. It gives you enough reason to keep going inside those dangerous places and it’s satisfying to reach the end with lots of building materials for the castle. You give them to the master builder, he builds the castle parts you need and toss it downstream back to the village, where a nice spot is ready to do some castle building.
continue…
No.59611
>>59610Your inventory has very limited space, so you’ll be constantly struggling with it. Should you take a risk and toss that herb or food in order to bring one more iron sand? That’s the type of decision you’ll be making all the time and it adds some difficulty to the whole thing. It doesn’t end there. Building materials are not all made equal. Each of the 5 materials come in 3 varying degrees of quality: regular, good and perfect. This is important because the demons will be constantly attacking your castle and the quality of the materials you use have an impact on how sturdy the construction is. Only parts built entirely of perfect materials will be indestructible.
When going up the mountain you can choose what trail to take. Easy, mid or hard. The easy trail will only have normal quality materials, mid will have good and sometimes perfect and hard has more perfect and good materials. So you have the monsters, the traps, different items that you can combine, trail difficulties, the companions and different types of materials you should find and bring up to the top to the builders. All of this makes for a very entertaining dungeon crawl experience.
To add to the experience you have the plot itself that helps to give you a sense of progress. As you build this castle, you get to know more about this village, your companions and the demons themselves. It’s nothing extraordinary but the little stories that play out as you interact with the villagers are really nice and dare I say, quite endearing sometimes. It’s all done in this optimistic, lighthearted, whimsical manner that makes for a very soothing game. Speaking of soothing, the graphics are charming and add to the atmosphere perfectly. The characters have this blend of 2D and 3D aspects to them. It works. The music is truly excellent and it shows the producers knew the grinding of going up and down the dungeons works best with relaxing tunes.
Each individual aspect of Shiren 2 is nothing really new and maybe not done inventively or extremely well but when you put everything together it makes for a very excellent game. It took me about 17 hours to complete and I very much enjoyed all of it. It just felt very nice to traverse the dungeons with your friends, specially the walking drawing Mamo, while you gather some building materials, deal with colorful and varied monsters, step right into clearly there traps and at the end of the day, build decorous fortifications against not-really-evil-but-clearly-misguided demons. It’s optimistic, lighthearted and a perfect game to spend the afternoons with.
As it turns out, once you complete the game, a whole new gameplay becomes available. One of the villagers wants to create a monster zoo, so a new dungeon opens up where you can find a special item known as monster pots. Basically they are pokeballs and now you can go on in these monster capture runs and use your captured monsters to fight for you. They gain levels and everything and it plays very differently from the main game, since inside this dungeon you can’t use any weapons. That was a very nice surprise and it gives a lot of replayability. This is a game I would play once a year even without that part.
On a personal note, it took me a long time to play this one. I knew of its existence for years and the visuals always attracted me but forgot all about it for years at a time, for some reason or another never getting in the right mood to play it. Now that I have it’s one of my favorite Nintendo 64 titles. I quite enjoy games with this mood and atmosphere and a dungeon crawl game where you can grind on in a relaxed and lighthearted environment is right up my alley, though it gives me an intense sense of waste and depression when I step out of the game and realize sooner or later, you have to come back to reality, and reality looks particularly uglier and cruel when you step out of the world of Shiren the Wanderer 2: Oni Invasion! Shiren Castle! I even had nightmares the night after I finished the game, which was odd. I can’t remember what they were about other than they were nightmares. This is all particular to my own psyche of course and I very much recommend this game.
Now, on the technical side of things, make sure your video drive is vulkan if you’re using retroarch. I have the original hardware and can compare it side by side when it comes to n64 games. The other drivers give you a very crisp image and for n64 in particular that’s not how you want, since you’ll be looking at the “seams” of the graphics in many parts of the game. The way it looks on CRT with the original console is better since it makes the perfect amount of blending, giving a more uniform look. Maybe if you never played the original stuff you’ll be fine with that very sharp look but since I got so used to how they look in old TVs that it really bothers me when it’s sharp and crisp.
All that said, I still don’t feel I was able to capture how nice of an experience it was for me to play this game. Shiren 2 is filled with quiet moments where you just stop there for a moment and enjoy the fact you're in a quiet place and that is all there is to it. It's a colorful, immersive little world and I've grown very fond of it. I guess the only way to find out if you'll like this is to try it out for yourself.
Also I'll be posting lots of pictures.
No.59617
>>59526Nice to know you rememeber, I was going to play Goemon again but ended up playing
>>59610 instead, lots of pictures for that one as well.
No.59619
>>59610 -
>>59616Cute looking game, thanks for writing such a thorough review wiz
No.59620
Finished Condemned: Criminal Origins (stupid tag line now that I think about it, doesn't really relate to anything that happens in the game).
For those not familiar, it's a first person horror game with melee combat and a bit of shooting. I had a pretty mixed experience playing it, there were some good moments here and there but it trended towards the negative.
Starting with the positive: the atmosphere is great. They really did some cool stuff with lighting in this game and the environments are well crafted and designed; everything has a gritty, industrial feel and most of the locations in the game are abandoned places (school, library, mall), or back alleys and subway service tunnels. Those type of levels have the potential to come across as drab and boring but the devs made it work and there's absolutely some memorable levels and setpieces. That being said, there are sections in the game where the grey corridors become a bit overbearing and it unfortunately drags the good levels down a bit. This game suffers from the fact that games need to hit a certain amount of playtime or else the customer feels like they're not getting the most bang for their buck. I probably finished it in 8 hours and that's a good thing because the game started to drag on a bit, for my taste.
Sound design is great as well. There's several moments for example where you can hear an enemy yell from far away, and it actually sounds like it, their yells reverberating throughout the environment. There's also constant footsteps, screams, creeks and thuds and god knows what else which really adds to a sense of unease and tension. You constantly feel surrounded and get the impression that an enemy might pop up behind you at any time (and sometimes they do, to good effect).
In general the art direction in this game is pretty good.
Now the mixed: this game is often times praised for it's combat but I found it so-so. I found it to be a bit floaty and weightless, although other people seem to have the exact opposite experience when talking about this game, but I just didn't get that at all. The physics engine in this game is pretty standard, you hit and enemy, a staggering animation plays, you kill them and they flop/ragdoll to the ground (I found the ragdolls in this game to be really bad, and they glitched out on my several times, but that might just be because this game wasn't meant to be played on modern hardware). It didn't feel particularly weighty, or satisfying. There's some games where a hit feels like a hit, but to me, this wasn't one of them.
Another problem is how easy the combat was. You attack an enemy, they stagger and try to attack you, you walk backwards out of range, then move in and attack again, repeat. I feel this is sort of a fundamental flaw in first person melee games and perhaps why we've seen so little of them. Range/distance management is a pivotal component of real life fighting (whether it be boxing or fencing, or whatever else) and the AI simply isn't capable of or given the tools to deal with that; I'm sure it's a difficult problem for developers to solve and it's probably the reason why the only first person melee games that are actually half decent are multiplayer (Chivalry and Mordhau) or have you face of against a horde of mooks (Vermintide).
That being said, the combat is serviceable. It's not all melee though, and the game has guns. The guns cannot be reloaded, and have very limited ammo in them when you find them most of the time. This seems understandable on it's surface; you don't want the player to feel powerful in a horror game, you want to maintain a certain sense of tension and struggle -except because the combat is so easy that's never really present regardless. Add to that, the fact that guns are found in abundance and you can get your hands a pistol or shotgun every couple of minutes, and any sense of tension surrounding resource management and combat just melts away completely.
So not being able to reload becomes more of an annoyance than a tension builder. Being able to carry ammo but having it be very scarce, would have been a better decision in my opinion.
Another feature of the game is that you can take weapons from the environment by for example ripping a pipe off the wall. This further adds to the sense of ease, because you're never without a weapon and as such enemies are never truly a threat. Oh, and you also have a taser which is capable of incapacitating any enemy you might face and half way through the game it gets an upgrade making it even more OP. So all in all the combat is made way too easy to inspire any sort of tension. It really feels like the game didn't know what it wanted to be in that regard. On the one hand it feels like it wanted to be a tense, survival horror game, but at the same time it feels like it didn't want to be difficult or inconvenience the player in anyway.
And finally the negative: The story in this game is absolutely dog shit. You're an agent with the 'Bureau' (although they never actually mention the FBI, legal reasons or something, copyright?). You're after a serial killer that kills other serial killers. He kills two cops with your gun and you take the blame and go on the run while trying to catch the serial killer.
Then you start having psychic premonitions and at a certain point it's revealed you're genetically enhanced or something. There's shitty pseudo plot twist at the end of the game.
Initially you fight insane homeless which have gone insane for some reason that is never quite explained, but eventually weird ghoul creatures start showing up. Towards the end of the game you start fighting some weird monster looking dude that dual wields metal sticks which he twirls around in an exaggerated Hollywood stuntman type of way. Then the final boss is an even weirder monster looking dude that twirls around a metal pipe like he's in a samurai movie. What starts out as a pretty grounded, gritty psychological thriller, just completely goes off the rails and becomes some retard fantasy shit that's truly becoming of a video game story. The story in general is disjointed and relies on a sense of mystery, but the mystery is never really explained or comes to a conclusion which is a sure sign of poor writing.
All in all, if you like horror stuff the game is worth playing for it's atmosphere alone, the combat is serviceable but not as great as people say and the story is just absolute dogshit. There's some other undercooked game mechanics that I didn't touch upon like the crime scene investigation stuff, or the level design (having to find a fireaxe to break down a door type stuff, etc.) but those elements are quite unremarkable and this is already long enough as it is.
I guess the final verdict is that the game has very good atmosphere, okay combat, mediocre game design, and a downright dogshit story even by video game standards. Play it if you really horror, but don't be afraid to quite half way through because you sort of get to experience everything the game has to offer in the first couple of hours and there's nothing really worth sticking around for (in fact I would say the game gets progressively worse as it goes along).
No.59626
>>59617you ever play azure dreams? i will recommend that to you
No.59628
>>59626not him, have you played the gbc game?
No.59632
>>59628no, just ps1. i know the gbc has something like double the monsters, more floors (i think) in the tower to explore, and the twon building and dating stuff is removed? in any case i was impressed by the ps1 version, you have a whole lot of freedom in your actions and ways to play the game, theres lots of cool interactions and mechanics.
No.59633
>>59626Yeah I heard of it but visually it's not at all appealing to me. I have an easier time enjoying a game I find visually appealing with mechanics I find unintersting than the other way around. I'll try it eventually, thanks for the recommendation.
No.59645
>>59620It's funny cause I played that game not so long ago and I can remember is the
manequin part and the combat being alright, but getting repetitive with time.
So you're right about the plot I guess, there's a second game but it was an Xbox360/PS3 exclusive so I never played it.
No.59766
Finished The Legend of Zelda for the NES. The first Zelda game, released in 1986. I've played plenty of older games like this and the first thing that impressed me about this title is how merciful it is for a game of the 80s. You can save your progress, if you die you get to keep your items and money and if you die inside a dungeon you get to restart on the first room instead of having to walk all your way back inside. This encourages you to explore far and wide since you're not afraid to die in each step. Which is good because you'll die a lot, or at least I did.
Very soon you realize how fragile Link is. He is faster than most monsters in this land but boy his reach is awful when he's not in full health. While you are in full health, your sword shoots little sword bolts, giving you a ranged weapon as soon as you start the game. This is fine and well but once you get hit, you'll be dependent on Link's arms reach and he can only hit things that are an inch away from touching his nose. So if you get hit once you lose your ranged weapon and that means you'll be getting hit constantly from then on and die. Like I said this is not really a problem since you don't lose any money or items. And you get better as the game goes on, so it's all good.
Exploring is a major part of the game and it's a fun process. There's a little bit of trial and error in some dungeon locations but I wouldn't call it unintuitive. A couple of secret locations however I would call unintuitive. It's literally just random places you have to bomb to open a passage. The items you find there are optional but I would like to be able to find them without having to place bombs in every square of the overworld map. I ended up using a guide.
The meat of the game is exploring the overworld to find items and health containers, finding a dungeon entrance and proceeding to kill the monster inside and fetch a piece of the triforce. Here's the whole plot for this game, 2 lines you can read when you turn the game on but don't push start: "Many years ago prince darkness Ganon stole one of the triforce with power. Princess Zelda had one of the triforce with wisdom. She divided it into 8 units to hide it from Ganon before she was captured. Go find the 8 units Link to save her." And that's it. I don't think you need more than that, really.
The dungeons themselves are engaging, fun to run around and, again, they're quite merciful. I only had difficulty in about 5 or 6 rooms throughout all the 9 dungeons in this game. The only one that is really hard is the last one. And I only beat it in a reasonable amount of time thanks to save scumming, something you can do without but then you'll be replaying this dungeon for days before you either get good at it or get lucky. But that's not the only problem. You see, you can only carry 8 bombs at a time and in this dungeon you have to blow up holes in many, many walls. Which walls you should use a bomb on is a matter of guessing most of the time. That means you'll be running out of bombs to use constantly and will have to go outside the dungeon, fetch more bombs, return, kill all the monsters again and try different walls. It starts to feel like busy work fast. Usually I don't mind this type of thing but here I did. Still, for a RPG released in 1986, this is nothing. Try playing Faery Tale Adventure. It's insane how brutal and outright punishing games from this era can be.
There's 3 tracks for this game. Overworld music, a tune I'm certain you'll recognize, the dungeon track and the last dungeon track. All of them are excellent. They're all 10 second loops but I don't mind that at all. In fact I find repetitive music very soothing. And most importantly, it's all square waves and triangle waves, none of that generic symphony so many RPGs use these days.
Graphics are pretty good. Especially in the overworld map they managed to convey different biomes across the land which is quite nice. I find pixel art from this era endearing to look at. There is solid art direction here but I feel like Castlevania spoiled me forever on graphics for this particular console. Nothing looks as cool as that.
I would also like to quickly talk about the monsters here. If you ever played a Zelda game before, you'll be surprised how you'll find most monsters you come across in later games are already on the very first Zelda title. Famous ones like Stalfos, Octoroks, bats, mummies, those flying things called peahats, spider-like Tectikes, they're all already here in their beautiful 8-bit appearance. Even Dodongo, a boss monster you find in Ocarina of Time is already here as well, except he looks more like a triceratops in this one. But you kill him in the same way; feeding him bombs. What a terrible way to go.
So all in all, soothing music, nice graphics, good monster variety, nice enough map to explore, fun dungeons. Yeah I can see why this game was a hit when it came out, so much so that Zelda became one of the bread and butter franchises for Nintendo. I say it's well deserved.
No.59780
>>59766>Which walls you should use a bomb on is a matter of guessing most of the time. I only beat this game because I followed a guide, but I didn't use any cheats. I didn't feel bad though because there were like two places you could not progress unless you knew to plant a bomb on a particular wall. If I were going at it solo I would have had to farm to buy bombs, then autistically laid them out at every corner of every room in every dungeon till I had found this hole. A Link to the Past is a better game it seems to progress without needing a guide.
>Faery Tale Adventurenever played it, but a lot of rpg games from this era are brutal. King's Quest is another example I am familiar with where you could go down entire story branches that end up being dead ends because you didn't do something the first 3rd through the game.
No.59803
I finished the legend of Zelda breath of the wild. I have to say, I'm somewhat disappointed. Not because I didn't enjoy the game, but I was just expecting a bit more from the way people talked about this game. Ultimately it's good but not great.
First off, the story is complete shit and the voice acting is a crime against the franchise. Every time there was a cut scene it was painful to get through and I regretted not skipping it. Beyond that though, its main flaw is its overall simplicity and repetitive nature. There are only a handful of enemy types to fight and they remain fairly trivial to beat throughout the entire game. The weather aspects of the game only make it more annoying, not more fun. The rewards for side quests all suck terribly. Everything respawns endlessly. There are tons of unskippable or only partially skippable cut scenes for stuff like crafting, upgrading clothes, etc. Some of the shrine puzzles were okay but most were painfully simple. Weapons breaking adds basically nothing but annoyance, and holy hell are there not enough arrows. It is painful having to fast travel around to shops buying 15 arrows at a time because they don't drop enough. Savage lyonel 5 shot bows are also broken as hell. I defeated gannon in like 30 seconds just hitting him with the bow. The "you meet the same people everywhere" gimmick was overused and started seeming lazy rather than humorous.
It feels like a small and simple game that was just copy and pasted a bunch of times to make it bigger. I don't get why people rave about it.
No.59898
Finished Hardspace: Shipbreaker
It's alright, I like first person puzzle games like Talos Principle or Portal, so this seemed like something I'd enjoy. Of course I didn't enjoy it as much as those games, it gets a bit repetitive with time, once you figure out how to avoid the hazards there's no challenge, and even if there was, there's next to no penalty on death. I played the story mode, there's an endless mode but honestly I think I've had enough, about the plot, it's ok I guess, it feels like something a leftie teenager would write, but I actually became kind of envolved with it
No.59914
Finished dark souls 1 some decent time ago, 2 semi recently, 3 right after that, and doom 2016 today
Dark Souls 1
Not much new i can say. i actually attempted this game years ago but when i noticed that i would need to run to the boss fog gate every time i die and there was no bonfire in front of fog gates i gave it up. only on the 2nd attempt i finished it. the first half of the game was great, i went into the graveyard before the undead burg like many people but directions were given to me after a short while so i went into the burg, basic melee guy, got lucky and got the black knight halberd after the knight fell off the cliff. with havel's set game became easy mode i guess. defeated manus without walking, just spamming r1 and drinking estus. games quality drops noticably after orn and smough, bed of chaos cancer, izalith was subpar, seath's invisible walkways were bothersome, tomb of giants was fine, blighttown was actually interesting to go through once you took out the toxic dart guys. i liked the depths too i dunno why. sewer and a poison swamp hah. overall had a good experience. gwyndolin best waifu
Dark souls 2
overall game felt halfcooked, lack of development time was apparent throughout the game i think. far as i understand game was made by the b team and was re done mostly halfway through the development so its impressive its as adequate as it was. was not a fan of needing to get to emerald waifu to level up, overall the story and characters felt odd and not as interesting as the first game, i think it would have been better if it was an entirely different game disconnected from ds universe. i liked rotten the most out of the bosses. dlc were good though. if only the base game was like that.
Dark souls 3
immediately the graphical improvements are visible, game looks a lot better, yet the combat felt unpleasant. i have not played bloodborne myself but going from what ive seen on internet combat here reminded me of bb a lot, the way enemies flinch with almsot every hit, very fast paced combat (in ds1 you can roll 3 times with starting stamina as a knight, here as a sorc you can roll 6 times) poise as you might have known is practically non-existant. playing with magic felt a lot better than melee though, i almost regret playing melee in the previous games. everything in the game was adequate really, dont have much to complain. i wish lothric itself was a bit more involved in the game, you just stick to the wall and the castle, i think going through the more urban/civilian areas would be nice. i hate the ghrus and the poison swamp area, the leaping ghrus were the most cancerous enemy by far, wish the ending was a bit more elaborate, i dont know. firekeeper is beautiful and adorable. another thing i didnt like is how it didnt make sense for some npcs to just sit in a corner at the shrine. irina and greirat make sense but especially for orbeck it was a bit odd to me that he was for one using a ruin with mobs as his residence, had a table and bookshelves and tons of scrolls, but then after you talk to him just decides to move in with basically none of his belongings and sits there for the rest of the game, i just didnt like it. ocerios was awful boss, champion gundyr as frustrating as it was is good boss. i love the early part of soul of cinder's theme.
Doom 2016
finished today and 100%'ed the single player, overall was good, i wish gun sounds and feel were a bit more mechanical or whatever you call it, game looked a little bit cartoony like some nu-blizz game but it wasnt so bad, certainly not as bad as doom eternal from what i ve seen. the health/armor/ammo system is clever, incentivizes engagement with the enemy instead of something like say call of duty with regenerating health where you just sit in a corner. needed to look up for most of the classic map secrets' levers though, dont think i could have found them by myself, the perk that helps you find secret areas is pretty underwhelming. overall it was good fps. levels were very good too, the part where you reach vega's core on a small train/tram was the biggest peak in difficulty for me
No.59933
>>59620The second one is a very unique game
No.59968
>>57966I just finished the first Diablo and I had a really good time with it. I'll definitely count it among my favourite games ever, I would honestly give it a 10/10. I consider it an example of a perfect game, not because it was the most fun I've ever had with one, but because it's such a wholly complete package that does exactly what it sets out to do. I really can't think of a single complaint to make about it. It was so refreshing to play a game that knows what it's all about and never loses sight of that from start to finish. Your goal set from the very beginning is to descend into the depths and defeat Diablo, and every moment that you play and everything that you do is to bring you closer to completing that goal. The game starts you in the town that you're here to save, there's the dungeon that you're here to delve into and there's the great evil waiting for you at the end. It's all laid out so cleanly and concisely. There's dialogue for all the townspeople so you can get to know more about them and the town itself which is all written and acted very well, but you're free to not engage with any of it if you're not interested and just get to the killing and looting.
I'm a guy who never got into ARPGs. I never understood the appeal of effortlessly clearing an entire screen of enemies and hoovering their droppings up off the floor just so you can do the same thing you're already doing with marginally higher efficiency. That's what I always knew the genre to be, and I had just assumed that Diablo was the same. I see now that the original essence of the experience was lost by its successors in the effort to make everything exponentially Bigger™ and Better™ than before. Where worthwhile loot would once drop only sparingly and as a reward for the completion of quests and defeat of bosses, you now get your inventory filled with assorted junk to sift through every 10 minutes. While you would once fight in separate skirmishes with small groups of enemies, you now fight 50 enemies at a time, filling the whole screen with a diarrhoea of visual FX as you do. Where you would once spend the whole game delving deeper into a single enormous labyrinth of a dungeon, that one dungeon is now split into hundreds of barely distinguishable 5 minute strolls where the only interesting thing is the carrot at the end.
Finding loot was definitely part of the excitement of Diablo, but I found real joy in the adventure itself; the foreboding atmosphere, the thrill of inching along shadowy corridors and bracing myself for what sinister new adversary would await around the corner. Watching my stock of potions gradually diminish as I went on. I loved reaching new areas, going deeper and deeper into the dungeon and seeing the scenery get more and more removed from the Cathedral itself until I reached the very bowels of Hell.
The simplistic combat and lack of mechanical skill involved means how/when/where you engage enemies is of utmost importance, because there's nothing that your skill as a player can do for you if you bite off more than you can chew or get yourself surrounded. Keeping a mental note of doorways and other chokepoints you pass that you could fall back to later, splitting groups of enemies by leading them around obstacles, being aware of enemies trying to lead you further into the unknown and into a trap. There's a surprising amount of decision-making and tactics involved, it's not just the mindless clicking it appears to be.
The soundtrack is wonderfully angsty, atmospheric and unique. My favourite was the theme of the Catacombs.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrK90XJfqRsThe tribal drums and grungy guitar accompanied by wailing and laughter of succubi and children does a brilliant job conveying the spirit of the pure, primordial evil that you're fighting. But there's also a sense of grim, heroic resolve hidden in there that always spurred me on when I heard it in-game.
I can't fully put into words how or why this barebones game managed to hold my interest and thoroughly entertain with such ease. I don't even normally play games this old because, at least in my experience, they never hold up. Perhaps I've just been sorely missing games that were made simply because the developers really wanted them to exist.
No.59983
>>59968ive played both d1 and d2 and i also think d1 was the better experience, it was concentrated, atmospheric and immersive
No.60008
>>59983d1 was too cartoony and childish for me, the cardboard graphics make the "grim" parts seem comical
D2 has way better gameplay and a cooler looking diablo himself
No.60013
>>60008i like d2 more as well, but i had a lot more experience with the community when i played it. knew kids from school who played it, played ladder with randoms a lot online, read forums for it, etc.
No.60022
>>59968I think Diablo is more atmospheric and "scary" than 2, but 2 is infinitely more replayable, on the first playthrough yeah I prefer 1, but if I had to pick one to play for long periods of time I'd pick 2.
No.60083
>>60036i tried playing that within the past year but god damn the controls did not age well. shame because it has a ton of interesting game mechanics and nice details
No.60084
>>60036They have a private server for it
No.60089
>>60083They're weird at first, I got used to them after a while
>>60084only for the japanese version, I played the american version
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